[arista]

This is Logical.


Great debate on Ch5HD AM Live
Also first debate on This MorningHD itv



One Bloke phoned in
he refuses to get a Jab because he does
not trust the Government?

It's the medical scientists
that, advise us.


Even in USA
Biden finally now making sure all his white house staff
are vaccinated in the White House

[Captain.Remy]

I think I read that Facebook and Google won't let non-vaccinated employees in their offices anymore. I went through it quickly so not 100% sure how accurate and to what extent it is true.

[michael21]

Yes

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

I think I read that Facebook and Google won't let non-vaccinated employees in their offices anymore. I went through it quickly so not 100% sure how accurate and to what extent it is true.

Yes and a UK Plumber Business
is saying No Jab
No Job.

[arista]

[LeatherTrumpet]

If your reason is non-medical then yes

You want to work for my taxi firm?

Wait you have not been vaccinated because you "think" the vaccine was rushed through and not tested enough?

Please shut the door on your way out...

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If your reason is non-medical then yes

You want to work for my taxi firm?

Wait you have not been vaccinated because you "think" the vaccine was rushed through and not tested enough?

Please shut the door on your way out...

Yes of Course
Legit Medical Reasons, of course, not part of this.

[Cherie]

Some West End theatres and Clubs are already asking for passports or proof of recovering from covid, sensible in my view

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Some West End theatres and Clubs are already asking for passports or proof of recovering from covid, sensible in my view

You can't eat or drink indoors in Pubs or Restaurants here atm without having that proof. There's some backlash against that, I've seen people compare it apartheid or Nazi Germany segregating the Jews (which personally I think is shameful and trivialising of both those things.) I think the figure here was 25% of Pubs and Restaurants have decided against reopening indoor service until they don't have to ask people for that proof of vaccination/Covid recovery

[Toy Soldier]

I highly doubt this would hold up in court and I suspect companies would be wide open to a dismissal claim if they fully fired someone for refusing.

They could, on the other hand, refuse to allow people to come back to a communal workplace and insist on them working from home if they won't get vaccinated (if they have a job where that's possible).

I'm double-vaxxed but it would be a bit harsh for them to fire me if I had refused, given that I haven't seen any of my coworkers face-to-face in over 12 months .

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can't eat or drink indoors in Pubs or Restaurants here atm without having that proof. There's some backlash against that, I've seen people compare it apartheid or Nazi Germany segregating the Jews (which personally I think is shameful and trivialising of both those things.) I think the figure here was 25% of Pubs and Restaurants have decided against reopening indoor service until they don't have to ask people for that proof of vaccination/Covid recovery

As far as I know you can't even GET proof of vaccination in Scotland. Well, you could get your GP to write up a letter or something, but you don't get it as standard and that could be easily faked .

TBH it feels like the whole thing could be faked. How do they work in England? Do most places actually scan the QR? If it's just a thing that appears on your phone surely you could just screenshot someone else's and swap in your details and show them that . Eagle-eyed places might notice. Most wouldn't.

[Nicky91]

luckily then that i have no work


also i don't care, my reason is a legit and good reason, i cannot speak for others whom unlike me are socializing crowd


those who socialize can spread the virus, so the more people vaxxed the better in slowing down the spread, i still believe in herd immunity


and i am not dumb, i will forever just wear my face mask whenever i have to leave my home (but that is not often) and as for holidays well i never leave the country either so, and in own country, i will also wear my face mask then, few disposable gloves as well

[bitontheslide]

we are getting into some interesting human rights territory. Someone could catch flu from a fellow office worker and end up dying from it, where do you draw the line. If the majority are vaccinated, and they keep moving forward with boosters etc, there is no real reason why anyone should be adversely affected in a typical work place setting, i think the danger for companies is more linked with insurance and not being sued if someone dies. It could well become an insurance standard that workers need to be vaccinated and that will have knock ons to health insurance, mortgages etc etc etc

[Tom4784]

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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As far as I know you can't even GET proof of vaccination in Scotland. Well, you could get your GP to write up a letter or something, but you don't get it as standard and that could be easily faked .

TBH it feels like the whole thing could be faked. How do they work in England? Do most places actually scan the QR? If it's just a thing that appears on your phone surely you could just screenshot someone else's and swap in your details and show them that . Eagle-eyed places might notice. Most wouldn't.

I'm not in England

In Ireland you get digital certificate with a QR code, I have an app on my phone called a Green pass with ours on

eta you also need ID (although I don't actually know if they check them all I haven't been inside a restaurant or Pub since they reopened)

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not in England

In Ireland you get digital certificate with a QR code, I have an app on my phone called a Green pass with ours on

thats an EU thaaang though isn't it


Do you not have an NHS app for Scotland TS? Did wee Nicky not pay that bill?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

thats an EU thaaang though isn't it


Do you not have an NHS app for Scotland TS? Did wee Nicky not pay that bill?

It is but it's what we're using here in Ireland for dining/drinking indoors

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Do you not have an NHS app for Scotland TS? Did wee Nicky not pay that bill?

Nah there's a Covid track & trace app but no functionality for things like vaccine passports.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nah there's a Covid track & trace app but no functionality for things like vaccine passports.

this is not the covid app, it's a seperate NHS app

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

this is not the covid app, it's a seperate NHS app

We don't want your poxy NHS cockney apples 'n' pears guvna pip pip pork pie and a pint of real ale Farage app up here in Sturgeonland, OK??

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We don't want your poxy NHS cockney apples 'n' pears guvna pip pip pork pie and a pint of real ale Farage app up here in Sturgeonland, OK??

[Cherie]

We can also order paper versions, you must have one how are the Scots managing to travel without proof of vac

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We don't want your poxy NHS cockney apples 'n' pears guvna pip pip pork pie and a pint of real ale Farage app up here in Sturgeonland, OK??

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We can also order paper versions, you must have one how are the Scots managing to travel without proof of vac

when they get vaccinated in scotland, they get an SNP ROOLS wrist band welded on and that treated as proof

[Cherie]

https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid19status


There you go TS