[arista]

[arista]

Spoiler:

Large Observer
Starmer must back this


https://news.sky.com/story/pms-natio...eople-12399514

Also,
[The prime minister is expected to
increase national insurance to help fund care reforms
and clear backlogs in the NHS.]

[joeysteele]

Once manifesto pledges start to get broken, then there becomes little point in manifestos.

However, as with the banking financial crisis caused to the government before.
Then with this pandemic to this government.

Events can mean, that you cannot possibly stick to manifesto pledges.

I'm not sure re the triple lock of pensioner additional support being broken.
Although if it's a fact that extra support is needed then make the pension of the right level to accommodate it.

Further, speaking for myself, to raise NI and or some taxation, to help fund social care and the NHS.
Then I am all in favour of that, as long as safeguards are in place to ensure, the extra raised, does only go to the NHS and social care.
Not wasted on unnecessary costly reforms as from 2011 before.

I support the government's efforts to improve social care and anything for the NHS extra is welcomed by me too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Once manifesto pledges start to get broken, then there becomes little point in manifestos.

However, as with the banking financial crisis caused to the government before.
Then with this pandemic to this government.

Events can mean, that you cannot possibly stick to manifesto pledges.

I'm not sure re the triple lock of pensioner additional support being broken.
Although if it's a fact that extra support is needed then make the pension of the right level to accommodate it.

Further, speaking for myself, to raise NI and or some taxation, to help fund social care and the NHS.
Then I am all in favour of that, as long as safeguards are in place to ensure, the extra raised, does only go to the NHS and social care.
Not wasted on unnecessary costly reforms as from 2011 before.

I support the government's efforts to improve social care and anything for the NHS extra is welcomed by me too.

Of Course Joey
But China's Covid-19
changed every nations plans

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Of Course Joey
But China's Covid-19
changed every nations plans

I actually think I already pointed out that this pandemic had altered things.

Maybe read the whole post before diving in one point.

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I actually think I already pointed out that this pandemic had altered things.

Maybe read the whole post before diving in one point.

Fair Point.

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Fair Point.

Thank you.

[Oliver_W]

Feck off with your stupid tax rises and spend the money you're getting more wisely.

It's not the army of penpushers who were the heroes of the pandemic, and no-one would miss them if the fat was trimmed.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Feck off with your stupid tax rises and spend the money you're getting more wisely.

It's not the army of penpushers who were the heroes of the pandemic, and no-one would miss them if the fat was trimmed.

Well it's going to be Debated this week
Labour looks like they will agree with a tax rise.


On GBNewsHD now it's the Political Correction Show
John Redwood MP
and LibDem former leader Vince Cable.

Farage has a day off.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

Farage has a day off.

He had the last 10 years off

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There is now a Rumour the Nat. Ins.
could be a Temporary Rise.


Debate on GMBHD itv.


Labour are now against it,
and many Conservatives
are also against it.

[Toy Soldier]

I’d happily pay an extra £20 on NI or Tax if it meant actual improvements would be made. My concern is that the money will be taken but it’ll just be to stop the wheels falling off and nothing will improve.

I’ve started to turn into an old Tory with this foot injury when it comes to healthcare. I love universal healthcare in concept and that we have it, especially when it comes to things like chronic conditions and terminal illness, but it seems that for “basic” things like a complex foot injury it is just not fit for purpose. They have been utterly, utterly useless and 2 months down the line my foot is still ****ed. A month for an x-ray, 6 weeks to get a CT scan, that was 3 weeks ago and I still haven’t had results.

I can’t pretend that it doesn’t make the huge lump of tax and NI in my payslip sting a bit. Again, I wouldn’t begrudge it in the slightest if it felt like it was paying for a functional service.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I’d happily pay an extra £20 on NI or Tax if it meant actual improvements would be made. My concern is that the money will be taken but it’ll just be to stop the wheels falling off and nothing will improve.

I’ve started to turn into an old Tory with this foot injury when it comes to healthcare. I love universal healthcare in concept and that we have it, especially when it comes to things like chronic conditions and terminal illness, but it seems that for “basic” things like a complex foot injury it is just not fit for purpose. They have been utterly, utterly useless and 2 months down the line my foot is still ****ed. A month for an x-ray, 6 weeks to get a CT scan, that was 3 weeks ago and I still haven’t had results.

I can’t pretend that it doesn’t make the huge lump of tax and NI in my payslip sting a bit. Again, I wouldn’t begrudge it in the slightest if it felt like it was paying for a functional service.

Yep same, they need to create a tax that is purely put in a social care pot so that spending can be transparent

[Livia]

Tax the rich properly then you won't have to squeeze the poor.