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Old 21-09-2021, 03:54 PM #26
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But maybe if the death penalty was there, it would be a deterrent against these crimes.

I'm not for the death penalty either, but I'd be happy to look away and turn a blind eye in this case.
It will never act as a deterrent but it would be brilliant for the family that is left to know that the guy who did it is not going to be n jjail taking drugs, watching tv and boasting about how he did it for many many years to come

and then get released because he is now a nice person...

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It will never act as a deterrent but it would be brilliant for the family that is left to know that the guy who did it is not going to be n jjail taking drugs, watching tv and boasting about how he did it for many many years to come

and then get released because he is now a nice person...
My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error
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My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error
Exactly - my stance against it isn't particularly a moral one, it's the knowledge that the justice system and especially Trial by Jury is so flawed. If it was ever to be used, it would have to be in circumstances where there is absolutely no question of guilt, e.g. the crime was committed openly in a public place.

You can't even 100% trust video footage these days.
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Exactly - my stance against it isn't particularly a moral one, it's the knowledge that the justice system and especially Trial by Jury is so flawed. If it was ever to be used, it would have to be in circumstances where there is absolutely no question of guilt, e.g. the crime was committed openly in a public place.

You can't even 100% trust video footage these days.
Well, it's moral in the way that, imo 100 dead murderers isn't worth the life of 1 innocent man/woman
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My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error
This is what I think too. Sometimes I hear about cases where you think the death penalty is deserved, but there is always the chance of miscarriages of justice.
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My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error
same room for error in condemning them to a life in jail
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same room for error in condemning them to a life in jail
There is but there's always a chance that new evidence arises and they could be freed in that case. There's no coming back after an execution
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But with Forensics and DNA…if the evidence is overwhelmingly compelling…
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[Parents' agony as girl, 11, is 'murdered'
alongside her best friend:
Heartbroken father says 'my little girl has gone'
after she is found dead alongside
her friend's mother and
brother - as police quiz man, 31
Charlie Gent said 'I don't want anyone to go
through what I'm going through'
after losing his daughter Connie
Meanwhile Jason Bennett collapsed
in tears as he laid out flowers for his
children Lacey, 11, and John Paul, 13
Lacey and John Paul's mother
Terri Harris, 35, also died after attack in
Killamarsh, near Sheffield, Derbyshire
Derbyshire Police said a 31-year-old man
has been arrested on suspicion of
murder and he remains in custody
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...erbyshire.html

https://news.sky.com/story/derbyshir...-dead-12413172



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How will their friends cope...just awful
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It was definitely the boyfriend.
He has a record of violence. But maybe she didn't know.
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It was definitely the boyfriend.
He has a record of violence. But maybe she didn't know.
Probably why she was backing off - the terror they must have endured it is heart breaking
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[Evil Damien Bendall has admitted
murdering Lacey Bennett, 11,
her brother John Paul Bennett, 13,
their mother Terri Harris, 35, and
11-year-old Connie Gent in Killamarsh,
Derbyshire last year]

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his arrest video is here along with his confession: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...m-murders.html
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He has been Given a Whole Life Sentence
by the Judge
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Words almost fail me the horror of this. A monster not a man. Evil beyond belief.

RIP.
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his arrest video is here along with his confession: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...m-murders.html
You can hear the stress in the police mans voice as he is arresting him, you cant unsee some things
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