[Redway]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Worsened.

I think 2016 particularly became a turning point in splitting societies and even families.

I'd say up to 2012 things were okay but even then cracks were there as to society.

From 2012 onwards however.
Intolerance has taken over, suspicion, distrust and a breakdown on lots of levels.

I don't exclude myself from that.
I have got less tolerant too.

It's actually very sad but I can't see it being repaired or rebuilt either.

Yes though, the last coming now up to 10 years have been in my view, the most divisive generated from the top down as to society.

Agreed. 2016 is well overrated.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not to sound too much like an old fogie............buuuut I really do believe Social media has to take a huge chunk of the blame for dividing people and riling people up

Yup. Millennials feel like they have to live the polished fantasy life that people portray on social media and they go bankrupt in the process.

No 19-year-old lad needs a Mercedes and 8 Gucci belts but that’s what certain corners of Instagram will have them thinking.

That and the fact that every other person seems to want to self-identify as neurodivergent (autistic, ADHD, depressed, etc.), all the while trivialising those conditions.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It all depends what you mean by "Society"?

and then how on earth you would quantify "Better" or "worse"

Being the sort of person I am I’m less interested in governmental/political factors and more interested in people and social trends so that’s what I personally took as hallmarks of society. But you can talk about it from any perspective you want.

And it’s a casual thread on a Big Brother forum. No one’s really asking you to statistically quantify better or worse. All you need to do is give an opinion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conser...tion_agreement






Redway Ignores who was in power from May 2010

It is not 11 years.
2010 was Conserve-LibDem Power

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Heavy one for a Wednesday night but I’m in one of those thread-making moods and I’ve recently been thinking about how much certain things have changed since 2010 (at least in comparison to how we were envisioning it at the beginning of that new decade).

2020 and 2021 have been write-offs (or at least not what was expected) for pretty much everyone so in theoretical terms we might as well still be at the tail-end of 2019, so if you were to envision/place yourself on or at New Year’s Eve 2019/20 (either with all the knowledge of how things would unfold within the following 22-month period or just taking the 2010s into account), how would you describe the state of society compared to ten years prior with regard to general life and social trends (e.g., broadening of L.G.B.T./gender identities, more political correctness, adult millennial culture emerging)?

I wish I still lived in the 60’s .. much quieter, safer , slower pace .

I’d still want the Fibre Broadband , Sky , Netflix, Amazon Prime and YouTube though !!


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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Redway

Agreed. 2016 is well overrated.


Yup. Millennials feel like they have to live the polished fantasy life that people portray on social media and they go bankrupt in the process.

No 19-year-old lad needs a Mercedes and 8 Gucci belts but that’s what certain corners of Instagram will have them thinking.

Not to make you feel old Redway, but the youngest millennials are currently 25 . Today’s 19 year olds are very firmly GenZ.

That and the fact that every other person seems to want to self-identify as neurodivergent (autistic, ADHD, depressed, etc.), all the while trivialising those conditions
.

I see this slightly differently actually. I think a combination of poor socialisation in early years + an over reliance on social media has lead to a generation that has a lot of people who are 1) socially awkward and 2) suffer from generalised and/or social anxiety. The combination of those things is symptomatically similar to an autism diagnosis, which is why they believe they actually are neurodivergent, when it’s purely social conditioning.

It’s a bugbear of mine because my youngest is learning disabled with a clinical diagnosis of ASD… but because there are so many anxious teens with no comorbid disabilities self-diagnosing with autism, I feel like I can’t just describe my daughter as autistic. I have to qualify it with “yes, she is ‘properly’ disabled”. People hear “autistic” and think “they’ll be quirky, anxious and shy” not significant neurological disability.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I wish I still lived in the 60’s .. much quieter, safer , slower pace .

I’d still want the Fibre Broadband , Sky , Netflix, Amazon Prime and YouTube though !!


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Friends sometimes say I was "born in the wrong decade" because most films and music I like are from around the eighties ... BUT if I'd have grown up back then a)I'd have to wait for each thing to come out, rather than having it all available now and b) I'd now be really OLD!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Friends sometimes say I was "born in the wrong decade" because most films and music I like are from around the eighties ... BUT if I'd have grown up back then a)I'd have to wait for each thing to come out, rather than having it all available now and b) I'd now be really OLD!

It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Friends sometimes say I was "born in the wrong decade" because most films and music I like are from around the eighties ... BUT if I'd have grown up back then a)I'd have to wait for each thing to come out, rather than having it all available now and b) I'd now be really OLD!

You would be a happier person though.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.

I prefer physical media to digital, and I collect different releases! The few modern things I do like, I do properly

Originally Posted by parmnion

You would be a happier person though.

Everyone would be happier without social media tbh

[parmnion]

Mark Zuckerberg would be a miserable little sod.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Mark Zuckerberg would be a miserable little sod.

As he should be.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Mark Zuckerberg would be a miserable little sod.

Is he really happy ? have you read the last words of Steve Jobs , he say's all there is to say about wealth.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.

Twin cassette recorder/players


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I prefer physical media to digital, and I collect different releases! The few modern things I do like, I do properly


Everyone would be happier without social media tbh

That’s open for debate ..

I personally love social media ... as in TikTok , Instagram, Twitter and YouTube .

I detest Facebook oddly


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.

i have hundreds of physical albums, i can't remember the last time i looked at them. They are all warping nicely at the back of the garage

[arista]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Is he really happy ? have you read the last words of Steve Jobs , he say's all there is to say about wealth.

Yes Mark Z
is happy


His Mother keeps him on the Ground
if she goes
he may not be so cool.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i have hundreds of physical albums, i can't remember the last time i looked at them. They are all warping nicely at the back of the garage

It's different when you're a teenager though or a teenager in the 90's, music was everything then

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not to make you feel old Redway, but the youngest millennials are currently 25 . Today’s 19 year olds are very firmly GenZ.

I’m pretty sure you got the gist of that message either way. Some people use millennial in reference to young people in general because in the most technical sense a millennial is someone who came/will come of age in the early 21st century and that can technically include the year 2049 if we’re really pushing the boat. It’s pop psychologists who think millennial ends at a certain-and-very-definite point in the late ’90s but it’s not as if it or Gen. Z are very scientific concepts in the first place.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's different when you're a teenager though or a teenager in the 90's, music was everything then

i was thinking about this the other day and I think peak music influence for me was when i was 12-15 -i am very nostalgic for that period

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i was thinking about this the other day and I think peak music influence for me was when i was 12-15 -i am very nostalgic for that period

I would say a bit later for me probably 14-17

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I would say a bit later for me probably 14-17

Yep, lay in the dark as a 15/16 year old with a CD player and headphones, listening to music and feeling like all of the lyrics are about your life specifically. Peak teen angst. Especially if it was after a few too many Budweisers and some high drama at a house party .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yep, lay in the dark as a 15/16 year old with a CD player and headphones, listening to music and feeling like all of the lyrics are about your life specifically. Peak teen angst. Especially if it was after a few too many Budweisers and some high drama at a house party .

aww yeah, so much nostalgia back then. I was right bang in the centre of the Grunge era too so maximum angst. Pretty sure Eddie Vedder is one of the only main singers from the bigger grunge bands still alive today, quite a few of them committed suicide

[Mystic Mock]

I believe it's worsened and not because of any prejudice towards any group of people (being accepting of other groups of people has been the best part about society over the last few years) I feel like overall people are a lot more miserable and stressed than I remember people being 11 years ago.

Maybe I'm being biased because of my childhood memories of those times, but a lot of people don't seem to know how to have fun nowadays, and tbf with our current Government I can't exactly blame these people for feeling that way.

[GoldHeart]

It's worse now for sure, but I can't pick an option that fits the correct way to describe it.

But this government is utter garbage , Covid / pandemic is something we have to live with now . People are more worried overall and are definitely having less fun than 11 years ago.

I sometimes think about those times and how non of us could have predicted any of this.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

It's worse now for sure, but I can't pick an option that fits the correct way to describe it.

But this government is utter garbage , Covid / pandemic is something we have to live with now . People are more worried overall and are definitely having less fun than 11 years ago.

I sometimes think about those times and how non of us could have predicted any of this.

“The biggest fear is the fear of uncertainty “

Spike Milligan ( or someone else )


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I believe it's worsened and not because of any prejudice towards any group of people (being accepting of other groups of people has been the best part about society over the last few years) I feel like overall people are a lot more miserable and stressed than I remember people being 11 years ago.

Maybe I'm being biased because of my childhood memories of those times, but a lot of people don't seem to know how to have fun nowadays, and tbf with our current Government I can't exactly blame these people for feeling that way.

You’re absolutely right Mock. Capitalism’s been the death of everyone over a certain age in these past five years. There’s no sense of fun outside weekends anymore. You just wake up, grind and tip-toe around everyone so they’re not offended by anything you say.