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22-10-2021, 08:39 AM | #26 | ||
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I remember the the story in this country of a young game keeper cleaning his shot gun it went off killing his teenage girlfriend so he reloaded and killed him self
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22-10-2021, 08:39 AM | #27 | ||
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22-10-2021, 08:41 AM | #28 | |||
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Why were real bullets even around that's the question ,were they shooting tin cans between takes? . You'd think on set they'd try their best not to mix up blanks and bullets,what with it being so dangerous . |
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22-10-2021, 08:41 AM | #29 | ||
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All the people involved would of been on set. |
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22-10-2021, 09:10 AM | #30 | |||
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Oh my god, that's awful
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22-10-2021, 09:16 AM | #31 | |||
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I dont understand why they use real guns and why they are even loaded as special effects today are amazing and a shot could easily be faked ,they are actors afterall.
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22-10-2021, 09:18 AM | #32 | |||
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i think we need to wait and see what the investigation uncovers, but it quite simply shouldn't have happened
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22-10-2021, 09:40 AM | #33 | ||
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I don't entirely understand why there would be live ammo on set at all though - I assume maybe for other scenes where the set/props are shot with live bullets; perhaps that's the change in rules that's needed though. You can't accidentally load live rounds if there are strictly NO live rounds anywhere on set. |
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22-10-2021, 09:45 AM | #34 | |||
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22-10-2021, 10:32 AM | #35 | |||
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He accidentally shot two people?
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22-10-2021, 11:23 AM | #36 | |||
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22-10-2021, 12:14 PM | #37 | |||
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Firing blanks is dangerous. You still have the case and the gunpowder so you still get an explosion so there’s a realistic flash, but anything in the barrel is fired out at velocity, maybe a piece of the case or something that’s entered the barrel accidentally. It’s a risky business. Films like this have armourers to look after the guns so for one not to have been checked or a real bullet slipping through seems unlikely to me. In any case, it’s a bloody tragedy. Can’t imagine how Alec Baldwin feels right now.
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22-10-2021, 12:23 PM | #38 | ||
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That's why I assumed similar happened here but Sheriff is right in pointing out that this explanation makes it strange that TWO people were shot. I suppose it's possible it hit one and then the other if they were stood together? More info will come, I'm sure. |
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22-10-2021, 12:23 PM | #39 | |||
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22-10-2021, 12:28 PM | #40 | |||
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I suppose it's all about what it was that was fired and where it hit the two people... or maybe more than one projectile. Like you say, more info will come. |
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22-10-2021, 12:45 PM | #41 | |||
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if it was pieces of debris in the barrel, i guess it would behave more like a shotgun, spraying that debris, so its going to cover a larger arc
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22-10-2021, 02:15 PM | #42 | |||
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22-10-2021, 02:18 PM | #43 | |||
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22-10-2021, 02:20 PM | #44 | |||
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this is inexplicable, why would he be pointing or shooting a gun at the director and cinematographer, it would make sense if he shot a fellow actor
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22-10-2021, 02:25 PM | #45 | |||
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I think he must have been demonstrating / following directions.
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22-10-2021, 02:31 PM | #46 | |||
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i think the fact that it happened in the past and all sorts of safety measures were introduced makes this one seem very dodgy
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22-10-2021, 02:43 PM | #47 | |||
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And this has happened 3 times now , most people know about Brandon Lee ,but apparently another horrific incident happened in the 80s where a guy shot himself in the head with what he thought was just a prop! .
Why were the safety protocols neglected so badly. Surely there must have been other ways ,they could have made the gun shots more realistic without it being fatal . |
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22-10-2021, 04:18 PM | #48 | |||
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It said on the news just now...they were blanks not live ammo.
Absolute tragedy... |
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22-10-2021, 04:23 PM | #49 | |||
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do you not know how filming stuff works? they do not point a gun at the other cast member, but at the camera, and they later on edit that as if he points the gun at the opponent, and i think this particular scene was a ''duel''
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22-10-2021, 05:11 PM | #50 | ||
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It could be a shot facing the camera with director and cinematographer stood behind the camera. It’s a western (I think?) so that would actually be quite a common framing for a shootout type scene (firing towards camera). |
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