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Old 14-01-2022, 02:35 AM #376
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Staff inside Downing Street held two staff leaving events featuring alcohol, and one with loud music, on the evening before Prince Philip’s funeral in April last year, when such social contact remained banned, according to new allegations reported on Thursday.

Eyewitnesses told the Daily Telegraph that a combined total of about 30 people took part in what appeared to be social events in different parts of Downing Street, before both gatherings combined in the garden.

According to one attender, a staff member was sent with a suitcase to the Co-op on the Strand, a short walk away, returning with the case filled with bottles of wine.

Philip’s funeral took place in the private chapel at Windsor Castle the next day, Saturday 17 April, with the Queen sitting alone to maintain social distancing.

Boris Johnson was not at Downing Street that evening, having gone to the prime ministerial country retreat, Chequers, on the Thursday evening and remaining into the weekend.

At the time, England was in stage two of the government’s gradual relaxation from lockdown. Up to six people or two families could meet outside, while indoors, people could only socialise with their household or support bubble.
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Even THE QUEEN stuck to the rules at her own husband's funeral mere hours after one of these parties. Shocking. I have no words for them, it's just disgusting.


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We have spoken to eyewitnesses. At a leaving do for a No10 photographer it’s alleged:

- Staff partied in the basement of No10, to music DJd by a special adviser.

- One broke Wilf Johnson’s swing in the No10 garden.

- Another was sent to the Co-op with a suitcase to buy booze.


Another event held to mark the departure of James Slack, Mr Johnson’s chief spinner, saw:

- Staff gathered for a speech from Slack, with others dialling in via Zoom.

- Booze drunk and attendees spilling into the garden.

- Chatting and drinking into the early hours.

At the time Britain was in Step 2 of lockdown easing - which banned indoor gatherings and imposed the rule of six outside.

But the celebrations in No10 meant around 30 people were gathered for what a source declares were definitely parties.

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you have to ask, if they had this many parties during a time when everything is locked down, how many do they usually have

I think there have just been too many occasions now where rules were broken. If it had been a one off and a misunderstanding, it could probably have been recoverable, but not now. These events wouldnt have happened if Boris had set the right tone for his staff, and it's obvious he just didn't

These last 2 events. It was on the news every day for the previous week how the queen was only able to have a couple of family attend Philips funeral, no-one could have missed it. No one could have missed the fact that the queen was going to have to sit alone .... and yet number 10 thought it was ok to hold a couple of parties with a suitcase of booze. Even the use of a suitcase shows they knew they were doing wrong and trying to hide it

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Like most things in business and Government all the faux concerns about the nations health is really just the fear of blame. So far not one person has lost a job for too many restrictions. The restrictions and lockdowns imposed were to do with avoiding blame and so the people who imposed them did not really think they were really needed so they did not really bother about them.

I think its really that sad and simple
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I am now in my life after going through political searching an unashamed Labour member and supporter.
So no matter the personal inferences and attacks I've had on here since I changed my political leaning.
I stand happily with it.

I rarely intensely dislike anyone I've NEVER met.
I have however for some reason always disliked Johnson, never saw him as trustworthy or anyone who should hold high office.

He stated no rules had been broken ages ago now it seems in parliament.
Here we are seeing with facts, from himself too that they were and more than once obviously too.

With what's been revealed already, even today and the admission after being caught out by Johnson's Director of Communications, of more rule breaks last year now too.

Quite what this inquiry by someone of whom Johnson is in effect her BOSS, can reveal is puzzling.
She was assigned to see if there was truth in these parties being held.
We already know definitely they were.
She can't assign blame or recommend action against anyone either it seems.
So the whole inquiry now has been almost made void by the revelations and admissions since.

Plus, as was said on Question Time last night.
When has Johnson stood by an inquiry which he didn't personally accept.
The answer is he doesn't normally.

So where can this inquiry he and his Ministers are hiding behind now really take us.

The end result is, Johnson was chosen by the Conservative party to lead it and be their Prime Minister too.
43% of voters entrusted him with the high office and responsibility of running and controlling all his government for the supposed good of ALL the Nation.

Number 10 is both HIS workplace, political base and also his home too.
It is then to me, and I think to most others now, inconceivable that he should not and did not, know what was happening in his workplace and his home in effect.

His presence not needed for these parties but his authority to permit definitely a factor.

All these admissions and only now apologies, are from being caught out.
There'd have been none of either, if these had been able to be covered up completely.
Not a chance.

It is beyond belief the police have not acted.
However have pounced on people where only 3 or 4 others were involved.

IF, the backbenchers allow this man to stay as PM, that will be a sad day for the Conservative party in my view.
His Cabinet of course say they support him.
They have larger salaries and more political status being selected to be in his Cabinet.

However for all the misleading alone, never mind lies as he KNEW he was at one at least.
He should be made to go.

From my political hope being in the Labour party it could be more advantageous him staying in place to the next election now.
Because as with Jo Swinson in the 2019 election, as leader of the Lib Dems, she was hammered for all she had supported in the coalition period.
Which she and her party couldn't get past.

In the next election, if Johnson stays in place, then this scandal and total mess, will also be likely played on heavily, which will make for difficulties in the campaign.

That may well be now of benefit to the party I now support.
However I care more for the Country.
This compulsive political deceiver and liar Johnson is not competent or decent enough to be still Prime Minister.
He never was as I'm biased against him, in my opinion.

In any crisis now however, he could never be believed as to his word.
It's all misleading, deceit and lies he delivers.
Really shameful in my view.

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Does not change much on the PM,
as he was not at these 2 events
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Does not change much on the PM,
as he was not at these 2 events
As there Boss it very much matters and it does change a lot - this will be the thing that will trigger his sacking
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Does not change much on the PM,
as he was not at these 2 events
that's not true, whether he was there or not is irrelevant. He sets the rules and behaviour of his staff. It's obvious he told them it was fine to have these events.

He has to go, and he will be forced out. The inquiry is meaningless now
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that's not true, whether he was there or not is irrelevant. He sets the rules and behaviour of his staff. It's obvious he told them it was fine to have these events.

He has to go, and he will be forced out. The inquiry is meaningless now

Yes, if they can get the big 54 total of MP's
he will go.
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Does not change much on the PM,
as he was not at these 2 events
I'm actually really personally surprised at you saying that.
Still, there it is I guess.

You DON'T have to be at something to know it's happening.
A PM who unbelievably and inconceivably hasn't a clue what is taking place in his workplace and his home too, doesn't send any positive signals as to his governance of government and Country.
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Joey that week May 2020
loads broke Covid rules
on Beaches and Parks

To many for the Police
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loads broke Covid rules
on Beaches and Parks

To many for the Police
this was the government, not "people"
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Downing St has apologised Buckingham Palace.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...al-queen-covid

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Downing St has apologised Buckingham Palace.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...al-queen-covid
Now they've been caught out ONLY.

None would have been made, nor anything admitted if it hadn't been revealed publicly.

Sorry doesn't always make things right.
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he can't survive this, the disrespect of holding a party on the eve of Philips funeral is just beyond words, even those who hate the Monarchy must have felt a pang when the Queen was sat alone .... you think it can't get any worse than it just does
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he can't survive this, the disrespect of holding a party on the eve of Philips funeral is just beyond words, even those who hate the Monarchy must have felt a pang when the Queen was sat alone .... you think it can't get any worse than it just does

Is this the one he attended or the one he didn’t ?

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oh in the OP it says he was at Chequers
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Like most things in business and Government all the faux concerns about the nations health is really just the fear of blame. So far not one person has lost a job for too many restrictions. The restrictions and lockdowns imposed were to do with avoiding blame and so the people who imposed them did not really think they were really needed so they did not really bother about them.

I think its really that sad and simple
did you see Rees Mogg yestereday saying they need to look at the restrictions at the time to see if they were proportionate
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Getting 54 MP's letters
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If it does not reach 54
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If it does not reach 54
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For these parties, whether he had been at one or all.
He should have the decency to accept fully responsibility and resign as PM.

I say that too as to any leader.
The leading has to be done by example.
If any Leader hasn't obeyed the rules the same applies in my view.

However too, even worse in Johnson's case because HE made the rules he demanded everyone else obey.
So his breaking one, or more or all.

Well he should just do politics a favour and clear off.
Probably now his party too a favour as well.

It seems now to be the growing view and strengthening all the time.
That people now don't believe at all that he didn't know all this was going on in his home and workplace.

I certainly cannot accept that they took place without his knowledge.
I'd like to think a lot more than 54 backbenchers will decide enough is enough as to this creep now.

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