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Old 11-12-2021, 01:47 AM #26
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Do the people who do the Covid tests have to quarantine whenever they come into contact with someone who tests positive or do they just carry on testing other people?

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You’ve just about described every politician since the late 1950’s ...


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As I've said to you before.
There are many, in fact the majority of MPs who are dedicated people really wanting to serve their constituents properly and who are hard working..
From every single political party in existence.

The parliamentary system stinks where people are forced rigidly to follow party lines.
Or face consequences to their careers possibly.

To say every politician, may be your view but it's not the case.
I know obviously Labour MPs really dedicated and longing to make lives better for all.
Plus I know Con MPs exactly the same in that too.

One reason I like Labour and therefore joined it, is the fact Labour MPs and members DON'T adhere to the rigidity of party directives, even moreso when they're wrong directives and they'll say so.
It gets called division when in fact it's just making an alternative argument.

The MPs who play the system and who do wrong, are out of all the MPs since the late 50s as you say.
Are a small minority of all such MPs since then.

As for being robotic, that's the party and parliamentary system we've had all through politics.
So I can't agree with you at all, sorry.

The Commons has from every single party the vast majority of more likely decent men and women who try to and want to do their very best for their constituents and constituencies.
As well as for the Nation as well.

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Do the people who do the Covid tests have to quarantine whenever they come into contact with someone who tests positive or do they just carry on testing other people?

Yes
back to work
as soon as the Tests say they are clear of it.
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as soon as the Tests say they are clear of it.
I don't think I put that question across properly.

I'm talking about the people at Covid testing sites and such places who do the tests on other people. If they test someone and the person they test is positive, then do those doing the testing have to immediately stop testing other people and go and isolate? Or do they carry on testing other people after being in contact with someone who is positive?
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Really !?!?!?!?

Not all Omicron surely ?
My error


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450 Omicron cases in the UK
yesterday news

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...gures-12491910

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Yes Zizu
58,000 Omicron cases in the UK
yesterday news

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...gures-12491910
And of those 58,000 cases how many Omicron deaths? I hear it's zero.
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And of those 58,000 cases how many Omicron deaths? I hear it's zero.

Yes no deaths, Yet
thats why they are called Cases.
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I don't think I put that question across properly.

I'm talking about the people at Covid testing sites and such places who do the tests on other people. If they test someone and the person they test is positive, then do those doing the testing have to immediately stop testing other people and go and isolate? Or do they carry on testing other people after being in contact with someone who is positive?


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Of course,
they Test daily
If the Test shows they have it - They go home
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Yes no deaths, Yet
thats why they are called Cases.
Pretty much confirms it's not deadly though, infact the flu (which we just live with every year without liberties being taken away) is far, far more deadly.
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Pretty much confirms it's not deadly though, infact the flu (which we just live with every year without liberties being taken away) is far, far more deadly.

People are Dying every Day Alf
Delta AND other Covid-19
it is deadly.



[Deaths within 28 days of positive test
Daily
120 — Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test,
reported on Friday, 10 December 2021.]



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...ited%20Kingdom

Total UK Deaths of Covid-19
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People are Dying every Day Alf
Delta AND other Covid-19
it is deadly.



[Deaths within 28 days of positive test
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120 — Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test,
reported on Friday, 10 December 2021.]



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The Omicron isn't deadly though, so why have the masks and lockdown mandates come back in due to Omicron coming about when they wasn't happening during Delta?
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The Omicron isn't deadly though, so why have the masks and lockdown mandates come back in due to Omicron coming about when they wasn't happening during Delta?

We do not know yet
it will take time to find out.
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We do not know yet
it will take time to find out.
If there's zero deaths in 58,000 cases, I think we've already found out.
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If there's zero deaths in 58,000 cases, I think we've already found out.

No, we are weeks behind
of knowing,
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-Omicron.html

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No, we are weeks behind
of knowing,
Maybe you are, but I'm not, that's because I'm not waiting around for my masters to tell me what's right and wrong.
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Maybe you are, but I'm not, that's because I'm not waiting around for my masters to tell me what's right and wrong.

By then, we could be in a Lockdown


Covid: Omicron study suggests major wave in January


[The UK is facing a substantial wave of
Omicron infections in January without
further restrictions, scientists say.
The number of deaths from the variant by the
end of April could range from 25,000 to 75,000 depending
on how well vaccines perform, they said.
But the experts behind the study said there
was still uncertainty around the modelling.
In the worst-case scenario tougher restrictions
may be needed to stop hospitals being
overwhelmed, they said.
The work by the London School of Hygiene
and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) is not a crystal ball.
It does not say what will happen with
the Omicron variant of coronavirus but gives
a range of possible outcomes.

High uptake of the booster dose is likely to mitigate
the impact of the Omicron wave, the researchers said.
Omicron data prompts fresh call to get booster jab]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59621029

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From yesterdays
CNN HD Business. I record

Australia has Cases going up
over 500 in Sydney is new high
they are rushing to get all a Booster vaccine jab.


They are still
demanding a Zero Covid Policy, there.

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As I've said to you before.
There are many, in fact the majority of MPs who are dedicated people really wanting to serve their constituents properly and who are hard working..
From every single political party in existence.

The parliamentary system stinks where people are forced rigidly to follow party lines.
Or face consequences to their careers possibly.

To say every politician, may be your view but it's not the case.
I know obviously Labour MPs really dedicated and longing to make lives better for all.
Plus I know Con MPs exactly the same in that too.

One reason I like Labour and therefore joined it, is the fact Labour MPs and members DON'T adhere to the rigidity of party directives, even moreso when they're wrong directives and they'll say so.
It gets called division when in fact it's just making an alternative argument.

The MPs who play the system and who do wrong, are out of all the MPs since the late 50s as you say.
Are a small minority of all such MPs since then.

As for being robotic, that's the party and parliamentary system we've had all through politics.
So I can't agree with you at all, sorry.

The Commons has from every single party the vast majority of more likely decent men and women who try to and want to do their very best for their constituents and constituencies.
As well as for the Nation as well.

The scandalous ‘expenses scandal’ was what . .. about 10 years ago ...

So have they all retired or moved on ( hundreds of corrupt MPs as I recall ) ...

Many were even caught editing their own wiki pages afterwards - trying to delete their embarrassing info .

I have no time for them


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Yes Zizu
58,000 Omicron cases in the UK
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It says another 450 or something Omicron cases the other 58,000 will still be Delta


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Pretty much confirms it's not deadly though, infact the flu (which we just live with every year without liberties being taken away) is far, far more deadly.

There is the usual two week or so delay though .. contract the virus ... get real poorly , intensive care .. death .


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It says another 450 or something Omicron cases the other 58,000 will still be Delta

Yes it is 450 Omicron

Thanks for Correcting my Error Zizu

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