[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The only thing that would make me a LITTLE sus is if he now starts taking grittier/tougher roles ... then I'm totally going to be eyeballing it as a deliberate image change. Other than that he's built an entire career on being a happy/smiley/laid back character. It's a potential career-ender for those sorts of roles.

Meh, I don't think he'd need to pull a stunt to get certain roles though, he's one of the most in demand actors there is. I just can't see how this really could be in anyway good for a guy who is top of his game and almost universally liked

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

my first reaction was that it was staged, then i saw Will was pretty angry. I bet Ricky G was glad he wasnt hosting it

Difference is I don't actually think Ricky would have made a joke like that. He does go close to the bone but his jokes are better thought out than that. That one was just mean spirited and not even funny either

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Difference is I don't actually think Ricky would have made a joke like that. He does go close to the bone but his jokes are better thought out than that. That one was just mean spirited and not even funny either

If you look at the awards ceremonies where Ricky Gervais has been roasting people, he tends to mostly "punch up" (or seemingly up, it's more sideways as he is also very rich ) but he's usually taking aim at their wealth/status/how seriously they take themselves etc... I can even see him taking the piss out of DELIBRATE style/image choice... but I don't think he'd comment on something that was a result of a medical condition. Like you *can* do it but you'd only ever do it with someone you know very well, and who you are very sure will find it funny. e.g. I have a friend who has Type 1 diabetes, I've known him forever (since long before he was even diagnosed) and we've ALWAYS made "diabetes related" jokes. But I wouldn't make the same jokes with a random aquaintance or co-worker .

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

IIRC in most US states an "open-hand slap" is considered a much less serious form of assault than a punch (as to be fair, it's much less likely to cause serious injury) but yeah ... I understand his anger but you can't lose your cool to the point of physical assault.

If he'd just shouted clearly angry like he did afterwards I think he'd have gotten the point across. In fact, I think the audience thought it was a planned part of the show until he followed up with the shouting.

Yes he did assault
on Chris.


But Chris has not called the Cops.


So he gets away with it.




Some like on Ch5HD 9:15AM Live debate
want him stripped of his Oscar.


Even LBC 10AM Live Left Winger
wasted one hour on it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Difference is I don't actually think Ricky would have made a joke like that. He does go close to the bone but his jokes are better thought out than that. That one was just mean spirited and not even funny either

Yes Ricky would not pick on a Wife
with a Condition.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If you look at the awards ceremonies where Ricky Gervais has been roasting people, he tends to mostly "punch up" (or seemingly up, it's more sideways as he is also very rich ) but he's usually taking aim at their wealth/status/how seriously they take themselves etc... I can even see him taking the piss out of DELIBRATE style/image choice... but I don't think he'd comment on something that was a result of a medical condition. Like you *can* do it but you'd only ever do it with someone you know very well, and who you are very sure will find it funny. e.g. I have a friend who has Type 1 diabetes, I've known him forever (since long before he was even diagnosed) and we've ALWAYS made "diabetes related" jokes. But I wouldn't make the same jokes with a random aquaintance or co-worker .

Yes absolutely agree.

As a side note I'm not condoning Will hitting Chris Rock btw, he absolutely should not have put his hands on him

[LeatherTrumpet]

If Smith was the size of Rock and Rock the size of Smith

Smith would have stayed sat in his chair

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If Smith was the size of Rock and Rock the size of Smith

Smith would have stayed sat in his chair

Yeah that's a point too

[Oliver_W]

The Smith Clan are pretty easy targets to take the piss out of - Will and Jada named their kids Willow and Jaden it's funny how they tried to be a Hollywood Family when Will's the only one with any talent

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The Smith Clan are pretty easy targets to take the piss out of - Will and Jada named their kids Willow and Jaden it's funny how they tried to be a Hollywood Family when Will's the only one with any talent

Sure but it's still a nasty joke and a lazy one

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sure but it's still a nasty joke and a lazy one

Agreed, a woman shaving her head (for whatever reason) just isn't funny, any more than a man having long hair is.

I can't agree with the violent reaction per se, but good on him for standing up for his wife's condition.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

[Up until Smith's assault on Rock,
the show had been running fairly smoothly.

Meanwhile, the organizers of the Oscars
are under fire for paying 'tribute' to the people of Ukraine
without mentioning the country
by name or directly addressing Russia's invasion,
despite the hosts' eagerness to go
after domestic political issues.

The 94th Academy Awards got underway
Sunday night at 8pm, with ABC carrying
the three-hour telecast from the
Dolby Theatre in Hollywood.

Actress Mila Kunis, who was born
in Ukraine, took the stage at the Oscars to
address Russia's invasion of her home country,
leading a moment of silence after praising
'those who keep fighting through
unfathomable darkness.'

Kunis, without mentioning Ukraine
or Russia by name, said that in recent weeks the
world had been shocked by 'recent global events',
before introducing country superstar Reba McEntire,
who delivered a live performance of Somehow You Do.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rformance.html

Interesting.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes he did assault
on Chris.


But Chris has not called the Cops.


So he gets away with it.




Some like on Ch5HD 9:15AM Live debate
want him stripped of his Oscar.


Even LBC 10AM Live Left Winger
wasted one hour on it.

Not necessarily. There was millions of witnesses who can call the cops, it's all on film, the cops can see it for themselves. Arrest the guy for assault, what they waiting for?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes absolutely agree.

As a side note I'm not condoning Will hitting Chris Rock btw, he absolutely should not have put his hands on him

I haven't heard Rock's "jokes" as yet ,I know he slated Smith's wife though.

But I wouldn't be surprised if this was a little staged, just seems peculiar how last year's Oscars was classed as the most "boring'' ,and this year's was again called 'underwhelming' until Will Smith HIT Chris Rock in his face.

After it happened didn't Rock say "this is the best show" . Or something to that effect ,so he probably enjoyed winding Smith up. And now it's the most talked about award show for all the wrong reasons.

But then saying that we all know how these comedians at these award shows like to push the boundaries, Rock has no filter plus Smith is a loose cannon. So whether alcohol was involved aswell ... Most likely.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Not necessarily. There was millions of witnesses who can call the cops, it's all on film, the cops can see it for themselves. Arrest the guy for assault, what they waiting for?

As yet, no one has called the Police


So it is over

[LeatherTrumpet]

can you imagine if a white actor hit him?

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you imagine if a white actor hit him?

Yes front page for a week

[Alf]

Better coverage here from Japan

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

As yet, no one has called the Police


So it is over

No it's not. I'm gonna tweet the LAPD.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

No it's not. I'm gonna tweet the LAPD.

They can Laugh at you
from England




All the way to LA Cops

[Alf]

You have to wonder now if Mr Smith beats his wife and kids? He's proved he's a violent man.

[arista]

[Better coverage here from Japan]


I have posted longer UN CUT in all English.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you imagine if a white actor hit him?

I don't think we need to go there, it's enough of a story on its own without adding hypotheticals and imagined reverse racism to it

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

Will Smith Punchers Chris Rock Live

WARNING UNCUT has Swear Words

Youtube video

BBCnewsHD
Spoke to a Live reporter at the Oscars in LA.
Reports Denzil Washington Warned Will Smith
the devil comes out, on a high.

Security were called during the Commercial Break.

Take a look at Page 1 ALF

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

As yet, no one has called the Police


So it is over

Originally Posted by arista

Take A look at Page 1 ALF

I know, I'm just saying, the coverage I posted is a bit better than yours.