[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

TalkSport just said that he’s resigned from the academy..


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I posted a link above

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's resigned as an Academy Member

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60963054

Yes that was good sense

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If they take the Oscar off of him but let all of the sex offenders and racists keep theirs, then it’s very clear what it’s all about

Who are the racists? Name names if you can?

[rusticgal]

Good...now I hope he gets charged for assault.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who are the racists? Name names if you can?

If they think it's OK for Roman Polanski to get an award then why can't Will Smith keep his ,answer us?.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If they take the Oscar off of him but let all of the sex offenders and racists keep theirs, then it’s very clear what it’s all about

So keen to bring up the race card.... Had Will Smith been white this would be a whole different story.
He assaulted someone...and so far everyone seems to be licking his feet...he was asked to leave on the night but refused...so they let him stay...now he has been given the opportunity to resign rather than be sacked...to save face.
Had this been an unknown Actor he would have been led out in Handcuffs...its a disgrace.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

If they think it's OK for Roman Polanski to get an award then why can't Will Smith keep his ,answer us?.

I didn't ask about the nonces, I asked about the racists.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who are the racists? Name names if you can?

John Wayne.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

John Wayne.

Youtube video

[Liam-]

That was actually meant to say rapists, but racists worked in the context to so I’ll stand by it

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That was actually meant to say rapists, but racists worked in the context to so I’ll stand by it

Youtube video

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That was actually meant to say rapists, but racists worked in the context to so I’ll stand by it

a racist rapist is worse tho

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So keen to bring up the race card.... Had Will Smith been white this would be a whole different story.
He assaulted someone...and so far everyone seems to be licking his feet...he was asked to leave on the night but refused...so they let him stay...now he has been given the opportunity to resign rather than be sacked...to save face.
Had this been an unknown Actor he would have been led out in Handcuffs...its a disgrace.

Indeed Rusti

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So keen to bring up the race card.... Had Will Smith been white this would be a whole different story.
He assaulted someone...and so far everyone seems to be licking his feet...he was asked to leave on the night but refused...so they let him stay...now he has been given the opportunity to resign rather than be sacked...to save face.
Had this been an unknown Actor he would have been led out in Handcuffs...its a disgrace.

Actually I think you'll find It wasn't Liam who initially brought up race.

If I remember correctly when the altercation first happened, there was comments already bringing race into it and how " ohhh what if Chris Rock was a white man who got slapped" and blah blah.

I was one of the first people to ask why race has to be brought into it.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't necessarily think taking the award is too harsh, I just don't think it makes any sense, he won for his performance in that film, that was decided already, taking it away is taking away the number of awards from the film itself as well which isn't fair on everyone else involved with the film plus everyone knows he won anyway

I just don't think you can in principle "take back" an award, I don't think it's conceptually possible... the award isn't the little statue - it's the recognition from the award-givers that you were the best of the nominees. They can take back the statue and scribble his name off the list but the recognition that he was (in the eyes of the academy) the winner of that award still exists. The statue is just a physical token of that sentiment.

[Alf]

I don't care about the award, it's meaningless. I'm more bothered about the lack of justice handed out to him that would be handed out to the average citizen.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Actually I think you'll find It wasn't Liam who initially brought up race.

it.

It’s actually irrelevant Who bought it up…however it was the first comment I had read and since Liam mentioned it I obviously quoted it…

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

I don't care about the award, it's meaningless. I'm more bothered about the lack of justice handed out to him that would be handed out to the average citizen.

Nothing would happen to the "average citizen" for an assault like that. Literally nothing, police might give a verbal warning. Chris Rock could probably take some sort of civil action but that's up to him.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nothing would happen to the "average citizen" for an assault like that. Literally nothing, police might give a verbal warning. Chris Rock could probably take some sort of civil action but that's up to him.

And Chris Rock seems to have moved on from it, he was never going to press charges.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nothing would happen to the "average citizen" for an assault like that. Literally nothing, police might give a verbal warning. Chris Rock could probably take some sort of civil action but that's up to him.

the biggest thing is going to be the knock on effects to his draw at the box office. If the next couple of films starring him bomb then his career is over. The general public will decide with their wallets

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the biggest thing is going to be the knock on effects to his draw at the box office. If the next couple of films starring him bomb then his career is over. The general public will decide with their wallets

Highly doubt it'll affect box office tbh

[LeatherTrumpet]

thing is "the academy" is just a group of self-interest men who seek importance, power, self-gain

its nothing other than a golf club for people who are in the film business

it means nothing, it is nothing and it will never be anything other than an illusion in the MSM

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nothing would happen to the "average citizen" for an assault like that. Literally nothing, police might give a verbal warning. Chris Rock could probably take some sort of civil action but that's up to him.

An average citizen walks onto the stage st the Oscars and slaps Chris rock, and no charges would be brought!


..dreamworld.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

An average citizen walks onto the stage st the Oscars and slaps Chris rock, and no charges would be brought!


..dreamworld.

I think TS meant if 2 citizens were involved,not a celebrity and a citizen.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think TS meant if 2 citizens were involved,not a celebrity and a citizen.

In fairness, black, white, whatever, celebs, especially A listers do seem to get away with stuff the 'average' citizen wouldn't.

I stand by him keeping his award, however the more power you have, the money you have, you will have a much better chance of getting away with this kinda stuff.

Also, it was America, walking up to a dude and physically assaulting him is a lot more heavily punished in the US. In some states Rock could have shot Smith and not even got so much as a slap on the wrist.

Yes, im being OTT now, just like Smith But still, in everyday life this WOULD been a different situation!