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9000 doses left for all the UK.
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9000 doses left for all the UK.

Yes Rush to get them
The Gay Men are wanting those doses
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[Worst of Britain's monkeypox crisis is over:
Cases have now been in decline for weeks
and virus 'could be eliminated' - as only
TWO boroughs have gone untouched
since outbreak began three months ago
Officials recorded an average of 10 new infections
a day last week in the UK
Data shows monkeypox cases have been
receding in the country since mid-July
Experts hailed weeks of falling
cases as 'good news' caused by vaccination]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-outbreak.html
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Monkeypox will now be known as mpox, the World Health Organization (WHO) has announced, after complaints over racist and stigmatising language linked to the virus's name.

The old term will be used alongside the new one for a year, before being phased out.

Mpox was decided on after lengthy discussions between experts, countries and the general public.

It can easily be used in English as well as other languages, the WHO said.

Human monkeypox was first identified in 1970 and named after the disease caused by the virus was discovered in captive monkeys more than a decade before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63782514

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It's good to see the WHO getting it's priorities right

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M... Danone.
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Monkeypox will now be known as mpox, the World Health Organization (WHO) has announced, after complaints over racist and stigmatising language linked to the virus's name.

The old term will be used alongside the new one for a year, before being phased out.

Mpox was decided on after lengthy discussions between experts, countries and the general public.

It can easily be used in English as well as other languages, the WHO said.

Human monkeypox was first identified in 1970 and named after the disease caused by the virus was discovered in captive monkeys more than a decade before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63782514

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It's good to see the WHO getting it's priorities right
Lol....lengthy discussions led to mpox?

Is chicken pox gonna be cpox too?
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Lol....lengthy discussions led to mpox?

Is chicken pox gonna be cpox too?
or Spanish flu sflu
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i wonder what the alternatives were
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I can't help but feel that the suggestion that the term monkey pox is racist is more racist than the term "monkey pox" .
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I can't help but feel that the suggestion that the term monkey pox is racist is more racist than the term "monkey pox" .
I was thinking the same. Who even remembers that "monkey" is a racist term, apart from racists?

Makes me think of the Broadway version of the Lion King. They stopped referring to the character who's a monkey, as a monkey...

Utterly barmy.
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Monkeypox will now be known as mpox, the World Health Organization (WHO) has announced, after complaints over racist and stigmatising language linked to the virus's name.

The old term will be used alongside the new one for a year, before being phased out.

Mpox was decided on after lengthy discussions between experts, countries and the general public.

It can easily be used in English as well as other languages, the WHO said.

Human monkeypox was first identified in 1970 and named after the disease caused by the virus was discovered in captive monkeys more than a decade before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63782514

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It's good to see the WHO getting it's priorities right
Why am I not surprised at racists using the word for another meaning.
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I was thinking the same. Who even remembers that "monkey" is a racist term, apart from racists?

Makes me think of the Broadway version of the Lion King. They stopped referring to the character who's a monkey, as a monkey...

Utterly barmy.
Is the Lion King part a joke?

A Monkey is a Monkey, just say it.
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A Monkey is a Monkey, just say it.
Nope, they literally won't call Rafiki a monkey, because the character is usually played by a black woman... but I bet that not a single non-racist in the audience connected a monkey being called a monkey, with a black woman being called a slur.

It's like Lord of the Rjngs, when closet racists tell on themselves by associating Orcs with black people, when they don't represent any humans, not even subtextually.
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Nope, they literally won't call Rafiki a monkey, because the character is usually played by a black woman... but I bet that not a single non-racist in the audience connected a monkey being called a monkey, with a black woman being called a slur.

It's like Lord of the Rjngs, when closet racists tell on themselves by associating Orcs with black people, when they don't represent any humans, not even subtextually.
But Rafiki is a Monkey though.

Obviously the Actress playing her shouldn't be referred to as a Monkey, but the character should as it is a Monkey.

I agree with you that the people associating the character with black people are being heavily racist.

And yeah I've never understood the Orcs stuff in LOTR, their connection to black people is very loose at best.
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Nope, they literally won't call Rafiki a monkey, because the character is usually played by a black woman... but I bet that not a single non-racist in the audience connected a monkey being called a monkey, with a black woman being called a slur.

It's like Lord of the Rjngs, when closet racists tell on themselves by associating Orcs with black people, when they don't represent any humans, not even subtextually.
To be fair on the Lion King one, I can't see any real reason to refer to Rafiki is anything other than a baboon, as Rafiki is a baboon, which yes is a type of monkey but everyone knows what a baboon is and it's far more descriptive. Referring to Rafiki as a monkey is sort of like referring to a person as an Ape. Like yes... technically we are indeed apes... but why wouldn't you say human?

And Lord of the Rings weeeeeell... I mean... if you actually look at when it was written there is most likely some subconscious racial subtext involved in elves and orcs, with Tolkien elves being tall/beautiful/very pale skinned and Orcs, specifically an evil and corrupted offshoot of elves, being dark-skinned.

I love LOTR for what it is but let's not pretend that it doesn't have the footprint of its' time. Tolkien wasn't racist, but the trope of "pureness" being embodied by light skin and "dark skin" being an indicator of evil in fiction, as a trope, goes back further than Tolkien... so it's not necessarily that HE chose to make them dark skinned with any racist intent - but the origins of that are somewhat rooted in race.

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Tolkien was ageist too, all the trees were old, no young saplings
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