Trans activists vs Womens activists

[Alf]

Piers gets called the C word on live TV by the trans activist and the womans activist proudly admits that she's transphobic.

The lengths Piers goes to to get viewers.

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[UserSince2005]

im backing trans for the win.

[Alf]

I don't know what it's all about but from what I can work out is that women's activists were gathering at the Emmeline Pankhurst statue in Manchester and some Trans activists dressed in all black with their faces covered surrounded the statue. There were minor clashes.

[Alf]

I knew JK Rowlings Twitter account would be a good source of information on what's been taking place. I'm off to read the comments in her tweets, I know it will be top quality entertainment.

[bitontheslide]

im sorry if i offend someone by saying this, but i think it would be an extremely rare event to have a biological woman come on to a tv program and speak in that tone, and that person is clearly their nominated spokesperson

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

I don't know what it's all about but from what I can work out is that women's activists were gathering at the Emmeline Pankhurst statue in Manchester and some Trans activists dressed in all black with their faces covered surrounded the statue. There were minor clashes.

Yeah, the women were going to have some kind of event, and the Men's Rights Activists formed some kind of blockade.

[Alf]

[Alf]

I had to Google what a TERF is, that's a new one for me. I thought it was a grassy lawn.

[Cherie]

Kellie Jay She would be labelled a terf anyway so may as well accept it rather than arguing against it, she got her point across well


The other lady was quite vicious and I am sure genuine trans woman are horrified to be represented by ‘her’

[ThomasC]

I don't understand why women feel threatened by trans women.

I'm happy to be educated on the matter.

There needs to be fairness so I disagree with a trans woman being able to compete in a sports event for example.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I don't understand why women feel threatened by trans women.

I'm happy to be educated on the matter.

There needs to be fairness so I disagree with a trans woman being able to compete in a sports event for example.

Seriously, you don't find that behaviour above threatening?

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Seriously, you don't find that behaviour above threatening?

In the video? Yes I do, but that's not all trans women, is it?

It's a cult of nut jobs

[bitontheslide]

its all people supporting their movement

[Oliver_W]

Women deserve their own spaces, and transwomen entering women's spaces nullifies them.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Women deserve their own spaces, and transwomen entering women's spaces nullifies them.

Do men deserve their own spaces? and does trans-women entering men's spaces nullify them?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

does trans-women entering men's spaces nullify them?

Well no, transwomen are male so that's fine

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Women deserve their own spaces, and transwomen entering women's spaces nullifies them.

Nonsense. You're part of the problem with an attitude like that

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Nonsense. You're part of the problem with an attitude like that

How so?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Well no, transwomen are male so that's fine

But what if you were in the locker room alone with this and politely said "Good morning sir" to make conversation?

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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

But what if you were in the locker room alone with this and politely said "Good morning sir" to make conversation?

I don't call anyone sir, I am Sir.

(Love that video btw)

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How so?

Well why do women deserve their own spaces? And when you say spaces, what are you referring to?

It's not a competition. How do trans women nullify women's spaces? Again, what spaces?

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Well no, transwomen are male so that's fine

Biologically they were born as a male and then of they decide go through the change and then identify as women.

They're not still male.

[ThomasC]

Sex and gender.

Sex is determined at birth with genitalia which can later be changed in life. Gender is how you identify yourself.

[Alf]

I think this war between the trans activists and the women's activists is going to get worse before it gets better. There's obviously bad blood between the two sides and the usual outcome to get rid of bad blood is to get it spilt.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Well why do women deserve their own spaces?

Single sex spaces (bathrooms and changing areas, refuges, prisons), it should go without saying why women deserve them.

Originally Posted by ThomasC

How do trans women nullify women's spaces?

Because they're not women.

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Biologically they were born as a male and then of they decide go through the change and then identify as women.

They're not still male.

You can't change your biological sex. They absolutely are still male. Gender identity has about as much sway over the physical as does religion.