[MTVN]

June 2018? This was nearly 5 years ago

Wonder why she's still going on about it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

For as long as I went to school and all the kids in the family went through school, nativity plays were compulsory, if the doors are being opened to sue schools for things that parents don’t agree with it’s only going to be a slippery slope with how everything is being politicised these days, climate change? Science deniers. Cooking classes with meat? Vegans.

The Christian legal centre has been getting themselves involved in a lot of stuff lately to try and push their own agendas on the country, worrying

Only if you sent your kids to a Christian school they wouldn’t be compulsory in a Sikh school for example

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

You never see these people protesting that children be sheltered from heterosexual relationships, you have to wonder what makes them think learning of homosexuality is any different.

Nearly every living person is a result of a heterosexual relationship. Most people are straight, or at least on the straighter end of the Kinsey scale.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And why does a child as young as 4 need to be 'taught' these things ? .

Teaching acceptance is fine. For younger children, the best venues for this would be stuff like reading stories where a character has two dads or two mums. Or maybe using gay celebrities as an example. But drag and Pride parades are unnecessary for this, as the message gets buried in the spectacle and it carries the risk of exposing them to (actual) inappropriate material.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nearly every living person is a result of a heterosexual relationship. Most people are straight, or at least on the straighter end of the Kinsey scale.


Teaching acceptance is fine. For younger children, the best venues for this would be stuff like reading stories where a character has two dads or two mums. Or maybe using gay celebrities as an example. But drag and Pride parades are unnecessary for this, as the message gets buried in the spectacle and it carries the risk of exposing them to (actual) inappropriate material.

Agree, there is no need for 4 years olds to be involved in a make believe Pride March, they are not proud of their sexuality, they dont have a sexuality at that age they are just kids

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Agree, there is no need for 4 years olds to be involved in a make believe Pride March, they are not proud of their sexuality, they dont have a sexuality at that age they are just kids

Too young
it is all wrong

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Agree, there is no need for 4 years olds to be involved in a make believe Pride March, they are not proud of their sexuality, they dont have a sexuality at that age they are just kids

Exactly !


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[Livia]

Who is teaching our children, and what are they teaching them?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

You never see these people protesting that children be sheltered from heterosexual relationships, you have to wonder what makes them think learning of homosexuality is any different.

Well what do you mean by "heterosexual relationship" , a child as young as 4 doesn't need to know anything about that sort of thing regardless of sexuality & gender. I'm also against sex education being taught to them at that age .

[GoldHeart]

Also why was this made COMPULSORY , as mentioned based on different religions & beliefs ...kids have not taken part in nativity, singing , and other celebrations etc etc .

And now hearing about the type of innapropriate crap that's being put on YouTubekids which is meant to be 'child friendly ', this all sounds like pushing & forcing an agenda on young kids. And has very little to do with just acceptance.

[LeatherTrumpet]

meanwhile the teachers are on strike....

(13 weeks holiday pa)

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well what do you mean by "heterosexual relationship" , a child as young as 4 doesn't need to know anything about that sort of thing regardless of sexuality & gender. I'm also against sex education being taught to them at that age .

Children growing up to know that there are more relationships that heterosexual relationships and that it’s normal mean fewer children growing up to be ignorant homophobes. Imagine having a problem with children learning about gay people

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Children growing up to know that there are more relationships that heterosexual relationships and that it’s normal mean fewer children growing up to be ignorant homophobes. Imagine having a problem with children learning about gay people

You're actually sending LGBT backwards , the progressive side never listens to anyone who doesn't agree 100% with them.

You talk about acceptance & learning ....and originally the left side almost fooled me into thinking it's just teaching kids "some families have 2 mummy's " & "some families have 2 daddies" , I didn't have a problem if that was all they were saying. But what will a child as young as 4 get out of a pride parade! ? , Or LGBT lessons in general? .

It's going about things the wrong way,but the people who are in charge of these ideas don't give a damn anyway ... about people's concerns. Instead they'll probably just use one of their buzzwords like " terf" or "bigot" against parents or anyone who disagrees .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

meanwhile the teachers are on strike....

(13 weeks holiday pa)

Teachers don't get paid for holidays, just FYI.

Monthly salary, sure, but the pay is pro rata.

[Liam-]

Seeing people going down the right wing wormhole live is fascinating, but entirely predictable, starts with questions about trans people and leads to wanting to ‘protect’ kids from the ‘gay agenda’ it’s just proving the point of what the anti-trans movement has been about the entire time and where it was always going to end up, it’s sad

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You're actually sending LGBT backwards , the progressive side never listens to anyone who doesn't agree 100% with them.

You talk about acceptance & learning ....and originally the left side almost fooled me into thinking it's just teaching kids "some families have 2 mummy's " & "some families have 2 daddies" , I didn't have a problem if that was all they were saying. But what will a child as young as 4 get out of a pride parade! ? , Or LGBT lessons in general? .

It's going about things the wrong way,but the people who are in charge of these ideas don't give a damn anyway ... about people's concerns. Instead they'll probably just use one of their buzzwords like " terf" or "bigot" against parents or anyone who disagrees .

What exactly are you suggesting these kids are experiencing

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What exactly are you suggesting these kids are experiencing

Why don't you watch youtubekids to find out , you'll see all the lovely content on there ... that's supposed to be 'child friendly ' . Or why don't you watch the video on social media where kids are collecting tips for drag queens??. I guess that's all normal??? .

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why don't you watch youtubekids to find out , you'll see all the lovely content on there ... that's supposed to be 'child friendly ' . Or why don't you watch the video on social media where kids are collecting tips for drag queens??. I guess that's all normal??? .

Well you’re so het up over it maybe you can provide some for me.

[Liam-]

I hope you get equally as outraged about parents forcing their kids to go to church? I mean, we all know that history so they can’t be considered safe spaces for children

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I hope you get equally as outraged about parents forcing their kids to go to church? I mean, we all know that history so they can’t be considered safe spaces for children

Of course they don’t.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Its chilling that an adult teacher (probably on strike today) could think that a "pride march" is suitable for small children

In fact its worrying

[Redway]

Trying to sue the school over that is absolutely stupid and O.T.T. (sorry, Izzy) but I ain’t here for 4-year-olds being forced to partake in a pride parade. That’s as ridiculous as the parent’s reaction.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Even more sad you support someone who opposes your daughters happiness.

To be honest, it’s not really about supporting or being opposed to LGBT people and their rights. It’s about the freedom of 4-year-olds (who should barely even know what sexuality in any shade is about) not being restricted for the sake of a parade that doesn’t even concern 14-year-olds (not really), let alone actual little kids.

[Liam-]

I want to know whether it was an actual ‘parade’ or not though or if it’s being exaggerated to whip up even more anger like these people tend to do a lot

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Imagine having a mother like that. Poor child.

I half-agree with much of what you say generally but this ain’t on. If you say that then you’re essentially pitying a good four-fifths of black children worldwide because most black parents are still very anti-gay and low-key homophobic.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Of course they don’t.

Nope, because straight people aren’t considered natural dangerous to vulnerable people, everybody can see how thinly veiled the bigotry is except the people that are getting sucked into the toxicity of it all