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Old 02-02-2023, 11:09 PM #101
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They can't debate without throwing insults at members on here .
O-ho. That’s the one, apparently.
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Strangers thinking they have more rights to what a child is exposed to than the actual child’s parents.

The sense of entitlement is deranged
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Strangers thinking they have more rights to what a child is exposed to than the actual child’s parents.

The sense of entitlement is deranged
Welcome to 2023 unfortunately
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Neither does anyone else

Parm is obsessed with that discord server that’s why I called you parm. I think you may of seen it as a gotcha but failed.

You might not be a middle age man but you debate like one
I couldn't give 2 ****s about you washerwomen over on discord, I was invited to join but turned it down because I'm to obsessed with it.

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And if a child is uncomfortable talking to their parents or guardians about those things for whatever reason, whether it be abuse, or bigotry, then teachers and councillors they feel comfortable with are the next best options, if you don’t want them to be able to do that, then yes, you most certainly do want them to suffer in silence
Doctors and police are the next best option..not teachers.
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did he?

apols if i missed this

but making one thread?
I made a thread about other internet sites and the title included discord..I think the thread was deleted because glenn and others couldnt help arguing and name calling each other in the thread.


Perhaps a mod can elaborate because I wasnt around when it kicked off.
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Doctors and police are the next best option..not teachers.
When I was a kid .... there was good & bad teachers .But I tell you something , I'm glad I don't have kids if these are the types of teachers around today . I wouldn't be able to deal with this type of nonsense.
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To ignore this womans cultural christianity and judge her through a UK lens is very harsh. sorry but im with Redway here.
I agree that she has her own cultural values that may differ to the average person that lives in the UK.

But ultimately she lives in the UK, so she does kind of have to accept that UK Schools aren't Homophobic.
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It’s a bit like forcing a Jewish kid to sit through a triggering anti-Semitic recount of the Holocaust as part of a history lesson just to make everyone aware that different opinions exist. Sorry but … yeah, no.
Tbh they'll learn about the Holocaust deniers very early on in their lives I would imagine.
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Tbh they'll learn about the Holocaust deniers very early on in their lives I would imagine.
I was using that as a very extreme example, Mock. I don’t want my earlier post to be taken out of context or more literally than it should be.
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I agree that she has her own cultural values that may differ to the average person that lives in the UK.

But ultimately she lives in the UK, so she does kind of have to accept that UK Schools aren't Homophobic.
That’s a point but ultimately that child was 4 years old, Mock. 4.
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I was using that as a very extreme example, Mock. I don’t want my earlier post to be taken out of context or more literally than it should be.
Oh I understand that.

I just honestly think it's sad that there are even Holocaust deniers in the first place.
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That’s a point but ultimately that child was 4 years old, Mock. 4.
Out of interest was it open to being a sexual/abusive situation? Because normally Schools are extra vigilant when it's really young kids around the Nursery age group in particular.

Or at least they was back when I attended Primary School, and yes I'm aware that I sounded like a boomer.
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I agree that she has her own cultural values that may differ to the average person that lives in the UK.

But ultimately she lives in the UK, so she does kind of have to accept that UK Schools aren't Homophobic.
When people come to the UK from other nations they dont just magically drop everything they knew and values they hold, and this goes for children of migrants as well, its much more nuanced than that
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on the one side you have a bunch of religious fanatics with an agenda, on the other you have a controlling, woke school. Neither is a palatable option to me
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When I was a kid .... there was good & bad teachers .But I tell you something , I'm glad I don't have kids if these are the types of teachers around today . I wouldn't be able to deal with this type of nonsense.
You’re glad you don’t have kids because teachers are willing to help and understand children when other people aren’t? Now that, is nonsense
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You’re glad you don’t have kids because teachers are willing to help and understand children when other people aren’t? Now that, is nonsense
And hey, people absolutely deserve to be heard and understood but kids who are half a step above nursery-age are just too young to be forced to join a pride parade.
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Realistically they have no idea what it's about either way at that age. It's just a colourful parade. they have no idea what it's about or what a sexual relationship is at that age. The idea that children are "born with a gender" is quite obviously nonsense as genderised traits are arbitrary and social-defined, and the science is inconclusive on sexual orientation but (IMO) not really all that relevant... whether sexuality is ingrained at birth or develops over time, it isn't (or shouldn't be unless something is very wrong) present at 4 years old.

Kids are just kids and any attempt to make them "part" of LGBTQ is something being applied by adults. That shouldn't be happening, but if they're just there as observers? I don't see anything wrong with that on balance.

So long as it's not a full adult-style parade where sometimes people are not fully dressed.
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Although as an addendum to that: Parent's choice, always, no questions asked. Schools and governments should not be interfering in parenting unless there's clear abuse or neglect. It's just too much of a slippery slope.
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Oh and also to the idea that "people had to do the nativity, no questions asked" that's clearly not right, as even in the early 90's when I was a small school kid I quite clearly remember a handful of kids not taking part on ANY Christmas activities or school assemblies on religious grounds and as the parent's choice. My class had one kid who was allowed to do "general" Christmas stuff like Santa and Elves and Christmas trees etc. but nothing about God/Bebe Jesus, and one who wasn't allowed to be involved in any of it at all. Which I do find a bit sad. Like I don't believe in spooks and fairies either but just let your kids make a lollipop stick Mary ffs, they're not going to come home quoting scripture.
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Realistically they have no idea what it's about either way at that age. It's just a colourful parade.
Agreed. Even if we pretend that Pride parades never contain stuff which is inappropriate for children, they're not the best way to teach acceptance as it's just a mess of noise and colour.
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