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05-04-2022, 11:11 PM | #1 | |||
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Anything, everything, offence.....Banned/Cancelled
She tried to ban everything she didn't like, the epitome of Right wing politics in the 60's/70's/80's. She was a ****head, granted. But her work is still being done, and ironically, spearheaded by the hard left! I studied the censorship of video nasties, free speech, be free to watch and say what you like (with in reason). Yes we progress, but free speech is dying, Mary would be proud!
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05-04-2022, 11:14 PM | #2 | |||
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yeah, i think mary would be very happy with how things have gone since her time
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06-04-2022, 08:02 AM | #3 | |||
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Funny how the wheel turns really, these would be her days for sure
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06-04-2022, 08:32 AM | #4 | |||
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Theres not much being cancelled on the TV these days, so no. I dont think we are
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06-04-2022, 10:34 AM | #5 | |||
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Just out of curiosity, what exactly have the hard left cancelled?
You don't think the far right and it's government, with all of the power in the country have cancelled anything or is supressing speech in anyway?
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06-04-2022, 10:47 AM | #6 | |||
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While people do seem to be following her example in trying to "cancel" things or people they disagree with, they're rarely successful tbh.
Like, the hatemob is always coming for JK Rowling whenever she points out that men (including transwomen) and women aren't exactly the same, but Wozarding World films and games are still coming out, the tourist traps are popular as ever... Dave Chapelle and Ricky Gervais just either ignore or mock people who come for them ... offhand I can't even think of anyone who's been actively "canceled" by the online hatemobs, but it might feel like it happens if you read too much twitter or trash articles. |
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06-04-2022, 10:56 AM | #7 | |||
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06-04-2022, 10:59 AM | #8 | |||
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So no ones been cancelled, and multi-millionaires and billionaires still have careers after being questioned on things they've said?
Wasn't she a christian fundie who's idea around cancellation was anything that went against a semi-literal reading of the bible? Julian Assange has been imprisoned for doing journalism, but omg I can't believe someone called Jim Davidson a racist for his chalky character, the left is out of control. There is a reason you're all being fed this complete fcuking nonsense whilst the government is destroying your living conditions, your freedoms, and your actual rights, not the inconsequential pretend ones that decree no one in power should ever be challenged about anything.
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06-04-2022, 11:08 AM | #9 | ||
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06-04-2022, 11:16 AM | #10 | |||
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Okay I stand corrected!
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06-04-2022, 11:26 AM | #11 | |||
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I'm not really sure what you mean when it comes to "the most affected." Who do you think I should be telling off and for what reason, exactly? No need to use language around the margins, just say. The last part is pure projection. If you think I wouldn't say something because it wouldn't be popular, then that's just weird. About 95% of my opinions on here are in direct opposition to the forum orthodoxy.
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06-04-2022, 01:07 PM | #12 | |||
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i think there has been an insidious change in society that has happened gradually over time. To the point where the only way you can identify it is by looking to the past and comparing to now. To many times I hear the statement, you would never get away with that today. If that's not censorship, i don't know what is
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06-04-2022, 01:12 PM | #13 | |||
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06-04-2022, 01:54 PM | #14 | |||
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It's also based on the false premise that everything that happened in the past was better. People still have exactly the same rights to be bigots, nice people, or anything in between, the only difference is that people might have to justify it these days. Most of the people that have been called cancelled have bigger platforms than ever, either in newspapers, tv, or with regular appearances on rogans podcasts.
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06-04-2022, 02:00 PM | #15 | |||
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06-04-2022, 02:08 PM | #16 | |||
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I don't know all of the names on your list but I know some resigned and one actually won a tribunal for being fired, which shows that cancellation isn't as final as suggested. People are fired incorrectly and win tribunals everyday
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06-04-2022, 02:15 PM | #17 | |||
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Regarding Maya Forstater, yes she won her tribunal that doesn't cancel her cancellation, you asked for examples and I gave them to you
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06-04-2022, 02:32 PM | #18 | |||
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I don't know whether or not he is alt-right, I know he isn't progressive but pretends he is. He was a trump supporter. Resigning isn't being cancelled. If you worked in a shop and all of your co-workers said you should resign, but the management didn't, have you been cancelled? If you've been fired, then won at tribunal then maybe cancel culture isn't really the all consuming power it's being made out to be. As stated previously, people in all walks of life, lose their jobs for reasons not deemed legal. This shows that the system works (to a degree), way more than it proves anything about so-called cancellation.
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06-04-2022, 02:34 PM | #19 | |||
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i cant believe that slim is arguing against the fact that we are being censored more these days when laws have been passed that we can now only protest quietly and thats but 1 small example
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06-04-2022, 02:38 PM | #20 | |||
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My first post in the thread makes a similar point as yours re the government.
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06-04-2022, 02:41 PM | #21 | |||
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What about Kathleen Stock, I suppose technically you could say she wasn't cancelled but had to run the gamut of protesting students and abusive graffitti to work every day, I dont know in whose world that is acceptable for having an opinion on womens rights
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06-04-2022, 02:41 PM | #22 | |||
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Being able to bounce back or get some form of life back afterwards doesn't mean that cancel culture isn't a thing. I've personally never stated that it's all consuming or can never be rectified
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06-04-2022, 03:03 PM | #23 | |||
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06-04-2022, 03:05 PM | #24 | |||
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Fair enough
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06-04-2022, 03:28 PM | #25 | |||
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Just to add, Bret Weinstein was regularly pumping out anti-vax mis-information using his platform, directly leading to the direct death of at least one of his audience members, so these are the kind of people you end up being on the side of when you go down these rabbit-holes. Taking anything someone like Weinstein says, at face value, is a risk.
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