[Cherie]

Couldn't find the thread on this, I am sure there is one though

Pair arrested in Brighton amid urgent operation to find infant born at time of disappearance in January

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...baby-continues

[Niamh.]

It doesn't sound good for the baby really, does it?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Couldn't find the thread on this, I am sure there is one though

Pair arrested in Brighton amid urgent operation to find infant born at time of disappearance in January

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...baby-continues

Yes, why would they not say
where is the baby is?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It doesn't sound good for the baby really, does it?

No unfortunately ...poor little mite was out in all weathers

[arista]

[They began living in a series of Airbnbs around
the country on short lets and amassed
a significant amount of cash
to enable them to live off-grid
and avoid the attention of the authorities.]


Can they charge the Rich Women Marten
with anything?

[Constance Marten grew up in the Dorset estate
of Crichel House. Her grandmother was a
playmate to Princess Margaret and
her father was once a page to Queen Elizabeth II.]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[They began living in a series of Airbnbs around
the country on short lets and amassed
a significant amount of cash
to enable them to live off-grid
and avoid the attention of the authorities.]


Can they charge the Rich Women Marten
with anything?

[Constance Marten grew up in the Dorset estate
of Crichel House. Her grandmother was a
playmate to Princess Margaret and
her father was once a page to Queen Elizabeth II.]

They can charge then BOTH with child neglect and man slaughter assuming the baby has died....why would it just be the woman being charged?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They can charge then BOTH with child neglect and man slaughter assuming the baby has died....why would it just be the woman being charged?

How can you prove the baby has Died?



He is the Criminal

She is a Lady from a Rich family

They can just say "No comment"

[bitontheslide]

they are both criminals

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are both criminals

What can you charge her with?

[Constance Marten, 35,
is from a wealthy family and had a privileged upbringing,
attending private school and living in a
stately home in Dorset.

Police said she became estranged from her family
after meeting Gordon while a drama student in 2016.]

[arista]

[Mark Gordon, a registered sex offender,
was deported to Britain from the United States
in 2010 after spending 20 years in prison for
a rape he committed aged 14.]

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

What can you charge her with?

[Constance Marten, 35,
is from a wealthy family and had a privileged upbringing,
attending private school and living in a
stately home in Dorset.

Police said she became estranged from her family
after meeting Gordon while a drama student in 2016.]

neglect at a minimum

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

neglect at a minimum

But she can say someone else has the baby.

Not saying who.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

But she can say someone else has the baby.

Not saying who.

no she can't. The baby is her responsibility, she cannot say it is in someone elses care. She will go down for a long time for this. Wealth doesn't come into it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

How can you prove the baby has Died?



He is the Criminal

She is a Lady from a Rich family

They can just say "No comment"

well she gave birth, and now there is no baby and they are staying stum....I didnt say the baby HAD died I said 'assuming'

[Livia]

They're describing her as an aristocrat. Hadn't heard that before.... Although I'm not sure what difference it makes.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

They're describing her as an aristocrat. Hadn't heard that before.... Although I'm not sure what difference it makes.

Yeah it has been prominent in the reports and there was also a reward put up by the family

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well she gave birth, and now there is no baby and they are staying stum....I didnt say the baby HAD died I said 'assuming'

Yes, the Police are now searching places
but they have been all over the UK

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no she can't. The baby is her responsibility, she cannot say it is in someone elses care. She will go down for a long time for this. Wealth doesn't come into it

Yes Fair Points

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by arista

But she can say someone else has the baby.

Not saying who.

You can charge with murder on a "missing presumed dead" basis, you don't need a body.

There have been incidents of people being locked up for murder and then the "victim" turning up alive years later .

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No unfortunately ...poor little mite was out in all weathers

Yup. Poor little lamb.

I don’t like talking about the Madeline McCan case (it’s been over-flogged to death and back over the past 16 years) but this story just sounds like a low-key repeat of that. At the least it sounds like gross neglect.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You can charge with murder on a "missing presumed dead" basis, you don't need a body.

There have been incidents of people being locked up for murder and then the "victim" turning up alive years later .

With this one though as it's a baby, they can't just say they don't know where the baby is like you could with an adult

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

With this one though as it's a baby, they can't just say they don't know where the baby is like you could with an adult

Well no, but I was pointing out that even when it IS an adult it isn't always "enough" to say something like "Oh they left" or "I have no idea where they are", after enough time passes and someone is declared dead there can still be a murder investigation even with no body or concrete physical evidence that the person is dead.

Obviously with a baby there are even more considerations, they could be potentially charged with neglect even if they know exactly where the baby is and who they left it with.

Unfortunately I think it's more likely in this case that the baby is no longer alive. Either that or they sold it - which, unfortunately, I'm not even joking about... it happens. If that is the case you just have to hope it's an illegal adoption, but without nefarious intent for the child.

[hijaxers]

I'd be very surprised if this baby will be found alive and well sadly, very peased they've been found at long last,

[parmnion]

So one rich women who's parents are connected to royalty gets in with a child rapist deported back to britain.Then a baby goes missing. Then the rich aristocrats put up a shut up reward says look at us, we care, we are offering an award, there has been no historical child abuse this side of the family


Honest.


Poor kid. Tibbs not the place to say what I thinks happened to it.

[arista]

Pink baby Ear Muffs
found. in Brighton

To be honest, how do they know those dumped ear muffs
were there's?