[arista]

Blair is a War Criminal,
I say.


He Loved GW Bush


Invaded Iraq
Mass Destruction LIE



[The bombs that lit up the night skies
of Iraq in March 2003 were described
by military powers in the west
as "shock and awe".

It marked the start of the US and UK-led invasion
of the country and the removal of
leader Saddam Hussein.
The British public were told Iraq had,
and was developing, weapons of
mass destruction that posed an
imminent threat to the UK and its allies.

Thirteen years later, Sir John Chilcot's
inquiry into the war found intelligence
"had not established beyond doubt either
that Saddam Hussein had continued
to produce chemical and biological weapons
or that efforts to develop nuclear weapons continued".

Now, 20 years on, some of those involved
in the war, or directly affected by it,
look back on the conflict and consider its legacy.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64978859

[Alf]

And they want to arrest Trump for what?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

And they want to arrest Trump for what?

Not this week

[Gusto Brunt]

Long overdue.

[bitontheslide]

i remember watching it all on cnn

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Blair is a War Criminal,
I say.


He Loved GW Bush


Invaded Iraq
Mass Destruction LIE



[The bombs that lit up the night skies
of Iraq in March 2003 were described
by military powers in the west
as "shock and awe".

It marked the start of the US and UK-led invasion
of the country and the removal of
leader Saddam Hussein.
The British public were told Iraq had,
and was developing, weapons of
mass destruction that posed an
imminent threat to the UK and its allies.

Thirteen years later, Sir John Chilcot's
inquiry into the war found intelligence
"had not established beyond doubt either
that Saddam Hussein had continued
to produce chemical and biological weapons
or that efforts to develop nuclear weapons continued".

Now, 20 years on, some of those involved
in the war, or directly affected by it,
look back on the conflict and consider its legacy.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64978859

They will just blame Boris


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[LeatherTrumpet]

we have to go to war as they have nuclear weapons that can hit the UK - lie

this is a disease that threatens all not just the old and ill - lie

we need to lockdown- lie

this vaccine is safe and is not driven for profit by big phrama - lie

when will we stop listening to these awful people?

[Mystic Mock]

And there was me thinking that only Russia and China spread propaganda to it's people.

This revelation has shattered me.

[UserSince2005]

Labour scum

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Labour scum

No need for that.

[joeysteele]

Blair was wrong in the overexaggeration of an Iraqi attack.

This did follow the 9/11 strike in the USA.

Blair also, despite having a 150+ overall majority, knew a string number if Labour MP could vote against any action too.

However, if anybody believes that had it been Blair or Hague as PM or Labour or Cons in power, that either would have refused American President Bush jnr our troops in action with his, then they are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Both Thatcher and Major supported Bush snr from 1990.
It would have been the same after 9/11 too.
With the exact same results in Iraq too.

I would have been against both actions in Iraq.
However anyone thinking a Con PM, Hague if he'd won in 2001 or any other Con leader, would have refused a Republican President support.
Well there wouldn't be a hope in hell of a Con leader refusing.
Not a chance.

The dodgy dossier was wrong and Blair acted wrongly.
However the support and the ensuing results would have been the same.
Under Labour or Conservatives.

[bitontheslide]

the tories voted overwhelmingly to take action if i remember correctly

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No need for that.

People in Labour are used to this scum comment Kate.
We get it all the time.

It's not such a bad word.
Scum as one definition is the worst rising to the top .

Well we've had that just as all other Parties have too..
So scum as a description puts us in good company of all other Parties.

It doesn't bother me really however as I know we have value.
I've been called much worse than scum when canvassing and leafleting for Labour by so called educated and so called well to do Cons.


With their mouths at times letting them down a lot of the time once they open them.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the tories voted overwhelmingly to take action if i remember correctly

Yes, he, Blair, was scared Labour would have more rebels voting against.
The Cons did back it and you are right

[GoldHeart]

Can you believe it's been 20 years since the Iraq war, what on earth was Blair thinking... he was far too close with Bush who he let push him around. This is all people remember now , when they think of Blair... unfortunate but true.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Blair knew that 80s Labour got decimated over home security so in order to get power in the 90s he had to appear he stood for national security

100k lives later he is a multi-millionaire

way to go left wing

[parmnion]

Labour got all trendy, had the masses believe everything they said. Look at the state of them now trying to appease a bunch of lgbt nazis.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Labour got all trendy, had the masses believe everything they said. Look at the state of them now trying to appease a bunch of lgbt nazis.

and they think women are men

who would ever vote for these cowards again?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and they think women are men

who would ever vote for these cowards again?

I noticed sturgeon was on loose women this morning. All the bloody same. Political losers grabbing at every pound they can grab.No better than the Hamilton's.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I noticed sturgeon was on loose women this morning. All the bloody same. Political losers grabbing at every pound they can grab.No better than the Hamilton's.

YOu could not make it up that she would go on their after that happened at the weekend with her husband

beggars belief

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Can you believe it's been 20 years since the Iraq war, what on earth was Blair thinking... he was far too close with Bush who he let push him around. This is all people remember now , when they think of Blair... unfortunate but true.

He and any other Labour leader or Con one were going to support Bush.
Bush jnr was determined to finish the job his Father started re Hussain.
No way would a British government not have supported him in that.

Blair was easily hauled into it, he'd only been PM for 4 years when 9/11 happened .
So he went along with Bush all the way.
While fearing without Con support in parliament he could have been beaten by MPs of his own party voting against getting involved in a new Iraq conflict

You are right though, he is only remembered for the Iraq war.
He did some good social changes especially for the sick and disabled and pensioners.
The NHS too.
Nowhere near enough however for the 2 massive majorities he got in 1997 and 2001.

I was too young to vote during Blair's premiership but I wouldn't have voted for him myself.
I actually preferred Gordon Brown to Blair but Brown got the leadership too late.

Then again, I couldn't bring myself to vote for Cameron's Cons in 2010 due to his NHS stance, I didn't trust him on that, I wavered and ended up voting Lib Dem.
Hoping for a good coalition.
I was greatly disappointed by that barely months afterwards.

It seems at times since Thatcher with the Falklands in the 80s.
That PMs seem to think being in a conflict can maybe help electorally.
I find that utter madness more like.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He and any other Labour leader or Con one were going to support Bush.
Bush jnr was determined to finish the job his Father started re Hussain.
No way would a British government not have supported him in that.

Blair was easily hauled into it, he'd only been PM for 4 years when 9/11 happened .
So he went along with Bush all the way.
While fearing without Con support in parliament he could have been beaten by MPs of his own party voting against getting involved in a new Iraq conflict

You are right though, he is only remembered for the Iraq war.
He did some good social changes especially for the sick and disabled and pensioners.
The NHS too.
Nowhere near enough however for the 2 massive majorities he got in 1997 and 2001.

I was too young to vote during Blair's premiership but I wouldn't have voted for him myself.
I actually preferred Gordon Brown to Blair but Brown got the leadership too late.

Then again, I couldn't bring myself to vote for Cameron's Cons in 2010 due to his NHS stance, I didn't trust him on that, I wavered and ended up voting Lib Dem.
Hoping for a good coalition.
I was greatly disappointed by that barely months afterwards.

It seems at times since Thatcher with the Falklands in the 80s.
That PMs seem to think being in a conflict can maybe help electorally.
I find that utter madness more like.

Sadly the Lib Dems back in 2010 ...particularly Nick Clegg led the public a merry dance of lies, what really did it was the deception with intuition fees.

That coalition was a garbage mess , At the time i was actually hoping Labour would get in and that they could form a hung parliament with Lib dems, but it soon became obvious that the Lib Dems were another joke of a party that couldn't be taken seriously. I'm actually surprised they're still around tbh lol.

Also I agree with what you're saying about any leader in power back in 2003 probably would have done the same thing re: conflict & war , the lib dem leader back then Charles Kennedy actually swayed a few people in his favour. As he said "ohh we would never have gone to war with Iraq", but i was thinking afterwards how hindsight is a great thing....it's so easy to say "oh we would never have done that", but i guess we'll never know now.

Utter madness is correct , a sane person would want to stay out of trouble and not stoke more fires you would think .

[bitontheslide]

welcome back goldie

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

welcome back goldie

Thanks Bots