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[Rishi Sunak backs JK Rowling's right
to free speech as Scotland's hate
crime laws come into force: PM says
'people should not be criminalised for stating
simple facts on biology' after the author dared
police to arrest her for 'misgendering'

JK Rowling wrote on social media that
a string of trans women were men]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gendering.html

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We laugh at North Korea but this is not far off, you can't criticise the government... what do you think of Simon Harris, I watched some of his press confernce yesterday seemed like same old, same old
I don't know if I would compare it with North Korea just yet.

But it's definitely a slippery slope, that anybody in this country that genuinely values freedom of speech, shouldn't be supporting this policy imo.
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Who made this graph? Because I'm highly suspicious of their personal bias.
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They should ignore all instances of "hate speech".
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Does India Willoughby wish to become a criminal?

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Tbh I wish JK would leave India alone - she's not a violent criminal, and she's not trying to take spaces in sports or politics belonging to women.

I don't follow the goss on twitter so maybe India is constantly targeting JK though?
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Crazy comments that are being paraphrased.

She/He will do anything to get on Live TV

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people, quite rightly, are going to push this hard, testing the police and the snp to the limit. It's a big self destruct button for them in the run up to the GE
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Tbh I wish JK would leave India alone - she's not a violent criminal, and she's not trying to take spaces in sports or politics belonging to women.

I don't follow the goss on twitter so maybe India is constantly targeting JK though?
Seems to be India constantly going after JKR actually, she's usually responding
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Tbh I wish JK would leave India alone - she's not a violent criminal, and she's not trying to take spaces in sports or politics belonging to women.

I don't follow the goss on twitter so maybe India is constantly targeting JK though?
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giving that nasty person way way too much airspace
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can you imagine the uproar if they throw JKR in jail?

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can you imagine the uproar if they throw JKR in jail?
I think it would be fantastic otpics actually and would really highlight the stupidity of the laws, the whole world would be paying attention
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I think it would be fantastic otpics actually and would really highlight the stupidity of the laws, the whole world would be paying attention
and the thing is, if they let people away with particular speech, then precedents will be set, which will make the law pointless and unenforceable.
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and the thing is, if they let people away with particular speech, then precedents will be set, which will make the law pointless and unenforceable.
I would imagine that they're going to use this "law" to harass people and scare them into being quiet about certain topics
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I've not heard of a single person who thinks this is a good idea.

The Scottish authorities were dumb enough to arrest some youtuber for teaching a dog to raise one paw, so why does anyone think they'll behave sensitively with this new law?


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Then, fair. Don't dish if you can't take.
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I've not heard of a single person who thinks this is a good idea.

The Scottish authorities were dumb enough to arrest some youtuber for teaching a dog to raise one paw, so why does anyone think they'll behave sensitively with this new law?




Then, fair. Don't dish if you can't take.
Yep and like I said they're trying to force that same thing in over here when it's very clearly not wanted either. Over 75% of people who took part in the public consultation said so but the government are sticking their fingers in their ears and pretending they can't hear us
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the problem is though, the way the scottish parliament is set up, those opposed, don't stand a hope in hell of repealing the law
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Football pundit Ally McCoist has also given his support to JK Rowling, calling the legislation "madness".

Speaking on TalkSport, external radio, he said he, along with thousands of football fans, will flout the rules during this weekend's Old Firm match between Rangers and Celtic.

The ex-Rangers player said: "I can guarantee you, next Sunday at Ibrox, I, along with 48,000 will be committing a breach of that hate bill in the particular Rangers Celtic game we are all going to."

Mr McCoist did not say which part of the Hate Crime Bill footballs fans were at risk of breaching.
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I think she might actually be trying for it, for that reason. Harry Potter Money gets you very, very good legal representation and I think she might be trying to be charged, so that she can enter a legal battle with the govt.
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Mr McCoist did not say which part of the Hate Crime Bill footballs fans were at risk of breaching.
Probably the sectarianism. It might be the part where (some of them ) get drunk and go home to beat up their families but that seems less likely. They already know no one ever gets meaningfully charged for that.

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I think she might actually be trying for it, for that reason. Harry Potter Money gets you very, very good legal representation and I think she might be trying to be charged, so that she can enter a legal battle with the govt.
They'll target the little folk with no money or media presence probably
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