[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i understand everything clearly. It's an outrage if people arent convicted in Scotland, because the scottish government is SNP. Labour are an outrage for pointing out that the same has been happening in england under the tories


That sums this thread up

Yes indeed.

The reference to Sunak is wrong absolutely.
This isn't really fair on him.

The statistic may well be right.
Possibly even worse?? In my view.
If more digging was done.

The failure of real justice for rape victims and even sex crimes against children has got worse since 2010.
There were issues too before 2010 admittedly but this lot have very dirty hands as to the issue of real justice for the victims

No matter how much the CON hardliners wish to re- write this lots horrendous actions in Con strongly dominated governnent for near coming on 13 years, YES, 13 WHOLE years now.
Unbelievable and a disgrace.
Still badly failing in real justice on this issue even now.

[bitontheslide]

i think its sinister that people choose to ignore the figures and instead try and change the narrative and make it a problem with labour

[Liam-]

Labour really should in this atmosphere be the grown up party and stay out of the weeds when it comes to ‘dirty’ campaigning, but it’s done, the message about the Tory party is correct and I’m not going to condemn it, I’m also not going to take the right wing grifters seriously when they’re now crying after receiving a tiny taste of their own medicine

[Oliver_W]

This situation reminds me of when Angela Rayner gave (what was apparently) a great speech, but it's forgotten because all people can remember is that she rounded it off y calling Tories "scum" ... something for which she still gets dragged all this time later.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Can’t remember Boris being questioned on the media rounds about accusing Starmer of letting Saville get away with abuse

Sure Johnson was bad news.
Valid Point Liam.



This is Lie and his Signature
of Prime Minster Sunak
who never said Paedophiles can walk free.

[arista]

Labour do not need to Lie
that's what is wrong with this Starmer backed Tweet

[LeatherTrumpet]

Top comment from the DM:

"I think Labour have shot the selves in the foot with this advert. Im no lover if the
Conservatives, but to make this advert personal to Sunsk is abhorrent. He has 2 young
daughters himself for goodness sake. Now who looking like the nasty party. If Labour
want to be taken seriously, then they need to grow up and behave like a future
Government, not deal in gutter politics."

[GoldHeart]

Starmer is making false promises about cracking down on knife crime and rape , well he'll say anything to get in power.

I'm not a fan of this government, but I don't trust a word Starmer says either.

[arista]

Broadcasting Legend Michael Crick

Says Labour are in the Sewer
with this Signature and Lie Tweet.

[arista]

The Online Paper

[arista]

2nd Lie Tweet





[The party doubled down last night,
posting another similar attack ad
which suggested Mr Sunak believes adults
convicted of possessing a gun with intent
to harm should not go to prison.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...attack-ad.html

[arista]

[bitontheslide]

tweets like that have a very short shelf life. It will have the opposite effect to that intended as people will just stop reading them

[Cherie]

it would be nice to have some fresh politics, this is just the same old

[UserSince2005]

It because hes Asian that racist labour think he’s a pedophile sympathiser

[arista]

[arista]

[Mystic Mock]

I don't think it's a Sunak issue personally, but I can't be the only one to have noticed that within the last few years that there seems to be a sly effort to downplay the severity of Paedophilia within our justice system.

And tbf the Tories have been the party in power over the last decade, nevermind the last few years.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The statistic may be right.
The tweet shockingly constructed.

As are many statements from the Cons against Labour too which hard-line Cons support and laugh at.

This however is a further demonstration as to why politics needs to be completely shaken up and changed.
The vast majority of people don't like this extremely divisive politics.
From any and ALL Parties.

It's why we need to work to a political system and voting system which creates a more working together to really succeed.
Get rid of this nonsense going on for way too long now.

Some fair points imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think its sinister that people choose to ignore the figures and instead try and change the narrative and make it a problem with labour

It's because people have to bring the sports tribalism mentality into everything nowadays, even if it's to do with an extremely serious topic.

[arista]

Emily Thornberry MP

Backs these Tweets.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

Emily Thornberry MP

Backs these Tweets.

Dianne Abbot

Does not back the tweets

[arista]

[bitontheslide]

the tweet has highlighted the factions within the labour party again, which i'm sure was not the intention

[arista]