[arista]

Live on SkyNewsHD

Strike starts Midnight LA Time/


Matt Damon walked out
in the UK at the Film Premier, "Oppenheimer,"
he left, as his phone alerted him of the strikes,
with all the other actors




[Hollywood actors announce strike after
SAG-AFTRA union and studios fail to
reach pay deal

American stars will walk out to join
writers on strike - demanding better pay and
increased safeguarding around AI rights - and leaving
the Hollywood film industry in the dark.]


The Writers already on Strike,
now get a Powerful backing.


If the Strike goes on
TV Series and Films and Netflix
could lose Billions


https://news.sky.com/story/hollywood...-deal-12920451

[Oliver_W]

Tbh just let all the major studios wither and die. Let them become as financially bankrupt as they are creatively.

[UserSince2005]

Good, more reality tv please

[arista]

No Oliver
Loads of Technicians and woodworkers
need their Jobs


It is a Massive amount of industries
all out of work.

I have been in Hollywood,
it is a great industry.

[arista]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Good, more reality tv please

Yes that can increase


But I want my Thrillers

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

No Oliver
Loads of Technicians and woodworkers
need their Jobs


It is a Massive amount of industries
all out of work.

I have been in Hollywood,
it is a great industry.

Okay then, so let's stop computers from being made because of the threat it represents to the typewriter industry.

Ink ribbon merchants need the work!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Okay then, so let's stop computers from being made because of the threat it represents to the typewriter industry.

Ink ribbon merchants need the work!

That Ship has Sailed away
long time ago

[arista]

Josh Hartnett popped in and pooped out

[The moment Oppenheimer's star-studded cast
went on strike: Emotional Emily Blunt
and Florence Pugh lead stars making
an early exit from the UK premiere
as acting unions bring the industry
to a halt]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...rs-strike.html

[bitontheslide]

As i said at the writers strike, the ones that will feel the pinch first will be the streaming companies. If there is no new content, people wont pay their subs. It's simple economics. There is probably about a 3 month lag before it seriously bites, but it will bite hard

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

As i said at the writers strike, the ones that will feel the pinch first will be the streaming companies. If there is no new content, people wont pay their subs. It's simple economics. There is probably about a 3 month lag before it seriously bites, but it will bite hard

They'll start buying up rights to stream popular legacy shows that have finished; for example, I noticed that for some reason "Gossip Girl" is sitting at #7 streamed shows on Netflix this week. I assume they recently got the rights to that, can't think of any other reason it would suddenly have surged in popularity.

Basically shows that were popular maybe 10 years back with a young adult audience... still relevant enough to find a new YA audience in 2023 but old enough that there's a whole generation that it's "new" for. Sort of like how my sister-in-law (27) and my daughter (14) both grew up watching shows like iCarly, VicTorious, Wizards of Waverly Place etc.

One generation saw them on SKY, a whole new generation discovered them on Netflix/Disney+.

[Soldier Boy]

Also worth pointing out that this is a US strike, Netflix has had loads of success with sourcing shows globally, some of their most successful shows are non-US (Dark, Squid Game, All Of Us Are Dead etc.) ... might see a bit more of that.

[bitontheslide]

yes, the foreign sources could save them if they use AI to narrate them

There is talk of equity coming out in support of their american colleagues

[arista]

Netflix have Cut the Repeat fees
to all actors in their series.

Netflix are getting Evil.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Good, more reality tv please

no thank you

no more of that reality trash

[Nicky91]

thankfully i don't have Netflix anymore

that one is truly vile


also not many good things being said about Amazon Prime, also got mentioned on our news this morning




yes, get rid of AI technology asap, real acting over AI edited acting so i support them in this strike

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Good, more reality tv please

Most TV these days is utter ****e. As are the films.

I am getting to be an old bloke because I watch the TV and films my dad watched in the 1970s. Good stuff back then.

So they can strike forever as far as I am concerned.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

thankfully i don't have Netflix anymore

that one is truly vile


also not many good things being said about Amazon Prime, also got mentioned on our news this morning




yes, get rid of AI technology asap, real acting over AI edited acting so i support them in this strike

It may also affect Disney kids shows so dont speak too soon

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

No Oliver
Loads of Technicians and woodworkers
need their Jobs


It is a Massive amount of industries
all out of work.

I have been in Hollywood,
it is a great industry.

Hollywood needs to get it's act together imo.

I mean there aren't many new Movies or TV Shows that are actually any good nowadays imo, which is terrible because Really the newer stuff should be making the older works look dated, not the other way around.

I agree with you on the workers in other departments though Arista like the Technicians, it'll be a shame to see them out of a job.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Okay then, so let's stop computers from being made because of the threat it represents to the typewriter industry.

Ink ribbon merchants need the work!

Ink Ribbons.

You've just made me nostalgic for PS1 Resident Evil Games.

[James]

A lot of films have been flopping recently, the movie-going business is not what it was pre-pandemic.

The streamers are losing billions also.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by James

A lot of films have been flopping recently, the movie-going business is not what it was pre-pandemic.

The streamers are losing billions also.

Go woke, go broke.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It may also affect Disney kids shows so dont speak too soon

so

i have plenty of older films, series to watch still on Disney



and if i get bored, i can always begin with the 33 seasons of lightheart entertainment iconicness that is The Simpsons



i just understand the actors their fears of being replaced by AI technology

[James]

The Marvel show Secret Invasion being shown now cost $212 million. Got 994,000 viewers on Disney+ in the first five days.

Interesting article -

Disney Shells Out $212 Million On Marvel’s ‘Secret Invasion’
Caroline Reid

Jul 8, 2023,07:50am EDT


Disney has revealed that its super hero spy drama Secret Invasion is expected to be over budget as its costs have ballooned to $211.6 million (£166.2 million.)

The six-part streaming series stars Samuel L. Jackson and Oscar-winner Olivia Colman as rival agents trying to track down an army of shape-shifting aliens who have infiltrated the corridors of power.

It debuted on the Disney+ platform at the end of last month to the second-lowest audience of any Marvel Comics streaming series according to media analysts Samba TV. Its data showed that 994,000 viewers watched Secret Invasion in its first five days, only just beating Ms. Marvel, which attracted a total of 775,000.

It stands in stark contrast to shows like Loki with 2.5 million viewers and Moon Knight with 1.8 million. Secret Invasion was expected to top them all as it is based on a beloved comic book series and has a heavyweight cast with Jackson joined by his Avengers co-stars Don Cheadle and Cobie Smulders.




Some have praised the show's gritty atmosphere whilst others have lamented its lack of Marvel's trademark action scenes. It is a welcome tonal shift for the studio after a string of lighthearted box office busts including Thor: Love and Thunder and Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. It was a costly gamble.

Secret Invasion was filmed at the historic Pinewood Studios just outside London and was also shot on location across the United Kingdom. One of the aliens' bases is located in the UK capital's hip borough of Brixton and London's streets even doubled for Moscow.

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Jackson and co also ventured north and filmed scenes in the less glitzy cities of Leeds, Halifax and Huddersfield. It's a far cry from tinsel town and this shines a spotlight on the otherwise secretive cost of film-making.


Budgets of streaming shows are usually confidential as studios combine the cost of them in their overall expenses and don't itemize how much they spent on each one.

Shows made in the UK are an exception. They benefit from the government's Television Tax Relief scheme which allows studios to claim a cash reimbursement of up to 25% of the money they spend in the country.

To qualify, shows must pass a points test based on factors such as how much filming was done in the UK, the level of UK content and how much they promote UK heritage which explains why Brixton was chosen as the location of the aliens’ base.

At least 10% of the core costs of the production need to derive from work in the UK. In order to demonstrate this to the government, studios set up separate UK companies to make each streaming series and they have to file publicly-available financial statements.

The companies usually have code names so that they don’t raise attention when filing for permits to film on location. The Disney subsidiary behind Secret Invasion is called Grass-Fed Productions in a nod to the green hue of the aliens.

As we recently revealed in the UK's Daily Express newspaper, the financial statements for Grass-Fed Productions show that the series is "forecast to be over the production budget". Although no reason is given for this, it is believed that extensive reshoots contributed to it.

Filming wrapped in April last year but Jackson later confirmed that he would return to London to work on reshoots which reportedly took a total of four months. They finished in September and even involved a new writer being hired to work on the additional material. It came at quite a cost.

The financial statements reveal that in just over two years to the end of September 2022, Disney spent $211.6 million (£166.2 million) on making Secret Invasion. It is more than double the production cost of the first season of The Witcher, 20% more than its second season and even 20% more than the cost of 2011's big screen blockbuster Captain America.

It puts the cost of Secret Invasion at $35.3 million (£27.7 million) per hour which is around 30 times the minimum spend required to receive the cash reimbursement. Secret Invasion qualified with flying colors and the financial statements reveal that it received a $41.3 million (£32.2 million) reimbursement. Every cent of it was needed.

The Disney+ streaming platform hasn't been profitable since it was launched in 2019 and made an operating loss of $659 million in the first quarter of 2023 alone. In February, Disney's CEO Bob Iger announced cuts to its content as part of a plan to make $5.5 billion of company-wide cost savings. Marvel was right in the middle of his crosshairs.

In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige explained that "the pace at which we're putting out the Disney+ shows will change so they can each get a chance to shine." He added that this means both having more time between projects and putting out fewer each year.

Secret Invasion was commissioned long before the studio's current woes, but its blockbuster budget adds to the pressure for Marvel, Disney and its prestigious Pixar animation division.

Last year, Pixar's Lightyear and Disney's Strange World animated movies were both branded woke and together only grossed $300 million. More recently, the live action version of classic cartoon The Little Mermaid floundered at the box office whilst last month's Elemental earned $29.5 million over the three days of its first weekend giving it the lowest debut of a Pixar film since Toy Story in 1995.

These expensive flops put even more importance on Secret Invasion's cash reimbursement which reduced its net costs to $170.3 million. It had a heroic impact on the UK.

Filming generates economic impact as studios spend on local services such as security, catering and visual effects firms. It also keeps local workers in jobs and one of Grass-Fed Production's biggest single expenses was the $20.8 million (£16.2 million) paid to production staff. They peaked at 314 workers without even including freelance workers who make up the majority of the crew. So even if Secret Invasion doesn't ignite viewers' interest, it will still have a happy ending in the UK.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolin...cret-invasion/

[bitontheslide]

that is an interesting read. It can be sustainable long term, so they will have to shake things up

[Oliver_W]

You can tell the writer of the article isn't from the UK - referring to Brixton as "hip"