[LeatherTrumpet]

TALLAHASSEE — A new law that could lead to imposing the death penalty on
people who rape children under age 12 will take effect Sunday, along with other
laws passed during the 2023 legislative session.

During a May 1 bill-signing event in Brevard County, Gov. Ron DeSantis said
the measure is “for the protection of children.”

“Unfortunately, in our society, we have very heinous sex crimes that are
committed against children under the age of 12 years old,” DeSantis said.
“These are really the worst of the worst. The perpetrators of these crimes are
often serial offenders.”

Judges would have the discretion to impose the death penalty or sentence
defendants to life in prison. If fewer than eight jurors recommend death,
judges would have to impose life sentences.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/...rape-desantis/

[arista]

Folks in Florida
back that, in general

[Liam-]

Florida’s religious leaders shook

[bitontheslide]

it seems to be a common theme at the moment amongst politicians. Become more and more extreme until your extreme enough to be popular

[Soldier Boy]

I don't find this that extreme it's one of the few cases where I think it's almost justifiable, though I am against the death sentence in general. Either that or life (meaning life) in prosion, no possibility of release.

Re-offending rates are sky high with child molestation. The risk of them harming another child given the opportunity are huge.

I don't agree with it in the sense of a punishment but (in short) I'd rather they were dead than released.

I'd be just as happy with them all being put on a (heavily guarded by sea) island tbf, they can even have houses, shops, "normal" lives as far as I'm concerned after serving a sentence, they can live there until old age... ... ... just surrounded by only adults, and never allowed to leave.

[bitontheslide]

i would say recommending the death penalty is as extreme as it gets, but maybe thats just me

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i would say recommending the death penalty is as extreme as it gets, but maybe thats just me

I'd say it's several orders of magnitude less extreme than raping a child.

To be clear I'd never advocate it for general sexual offenses or even other "lesser" (though that seems an odd term to use here) offenses against children. I'm not talking about people who have groomed or abused teenagers. I'm talking people who have committed violent sexual crimes against young children.

My preference would be locked up for life as I said but if given a choice between ever releasing someone who had committed that crime, or having them put to death... yeah I'd flick the switch.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

TALLAHASSEE — A new law that could lead to imposing the death penalty on
people who rape children under age 12 will take effect Sunday, along with other
laws passed during the 2023 legislative session.

During a May 1 bill-signing event in Brevard County, Gov. Ron DeSantis said
the measure is “for the protection of children.”

“Unfortunately, in our society, we have very heinous sex crimes that are
committed against children under the age of 12 years old,” DeSantis said.
“These are really the worst of the worst. The perpetrators of these crimes are
often serial offenders.”

Judges would have the discretion to impose the death penalty or sentence
defendants to life in prison. If fewer than eight jurors recommend death,
judges would have to impose life sentences.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/...rape-desantis/

Sounds fair and reasonable to me


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[bitontheslide]

i don't agree with the death penalty in any circumstances and i will never change from that opinion

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't agree with the death penalty in any circumstances and i will never change from that opinion

Some of us feel just as strongly but for the other option .


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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't agree with the death penalty in any circumstances and i will never change from that opinion

The right opinion. The state should not be involved in the premeditated murder of it's citizens. it's fcuking barbaric.

Revenge is not justice.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The right opinion. The state should not be involved in the premeditated murder of it's citizens. it's fcuking barbaric.

Revenge is not justice.

If you don’t rape kids you won’t be killed

It’s a choice
The kids didn’t get one.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Well done Florida thinking of the victims families and not filthy paedos

[parmnion]

I'm expecting the population to take a massive dip in the coming years.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you don’t rape kids you won’t be killed

It’s a choice
The kids didn’t get one.

And again, revenge is not justice. I know it's difficult with emotive examples like child abuse, but the state should not be murdering citizens under any circumstance.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

And again, revenge is not justice. I know it's difficult with emotive examples like child abuse, but the state should not be murdering citizens under any circumstance.

And again, if you don’t want to die don’t rape children

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The right opinion. The state should not be involved in the premeditated murder of it's citizens. it's fcuking barbaric.

Revenge is not justice.

So what in your opinion is justice for the rape of a child?

You've explained what isn't justice. But what do you believe is?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

just seems like another disgusting excuse to target minorities.

What are you even on?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

So what in your opinion is justice for the rape of a child?

You've explained what isn't justice. But what do you believe is?

Whatever the sentence is for that crime. If you want to look at harsher sentencing for that crime, then I have no problem with that at all, even if it's a remainder of life sentence. Just not retaliatory murder.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Whatever the sentence is for that crime. If you want to look at harsher sentencing for that crime, then I have no problem with that at all, even if it's a remainder of life sentence. Just not retaliatory murder.

So, a roof over their heads and free meal's without having to do a days work, all at the taxpayers expense?

Maybe those taxes could be more helpful in other areas?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

And again, if you don’t want to die don’t rape children

What about if we have a mass shooting, and a person shoots up a nursery, murdering over 10 pre-schoolers?

What about if a serial rapist targets an old peoples home, and manages to SA 6 of them in one night?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Whatever the sentence is for that crime. If you want to look at harsher sentencing for that crime, then I have no problem with that at all, even if it's a remainder of life sentence. Just not retaliatory murder.

Cut down to manslaughter. I will take it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

So, a roof over their heads and free meal's without having to do a days work, all at the taxpayers expense?

Maybe those taxes could be more helpful in other areas?

This is what I mean about revenge. What you're looking at is not what justice is, but about the goodies you think he's getting for free.

I'd kill myself at the first opportunity if I had to spend the rest of my life in protected/solitary confinement because of the severity of my crime.

Justice is losing their freedoms, committing violence towards that person is revenge.

Taxpayers are happy to fund this corrupt Island providing it's capital city for the dodgiest people around to launder their money in, so if you want to talk about justice with regards to taxation, I'm there, my brother, but lets not pretend that saving 50 grand a year for tax payers is the real motivation.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

This is what I mean about revenge. What you're looking at is not what justice is, but about the goodies you think he's getting for free.

I'd kill myself at the first opportunity if I had to spend the rest of my life in protected/solitary confinement because of the severity of my crime.

Justice is losing their freedoms, committing violence towards that person is revenge.

Taxpayers are happy to fund this corrupt Island providing it's capital city for the dodgiest people around to launder their money in, so if you want to talk about justice with regards to taxation, I'm there, my brother, but lets not pretend that saving 50 grand a year for tax payers is the real motivation.

So you don't believe that taking away somebody's freedom and incarcerating them is revenge? Even you said you wouldn't be able to carry on with that outcome. Isn't justice for a crime a sort of revenge?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

So you don't believe that taking away somebody's freedom and incarcerating them is revenge? Even you said you wouldn't be able to carry on with that outcome. Isn't justice for a crime a sort of revenge?

A minute ago you painted it out to be a holiday camp, and now it's revenge?

Society operates on a crime and punishment system, which I agree with. When you go beyond taking away freedom to inflict physical pain/death on the perps, then the holder of the laws is no better than those that commit crimes.