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Old 04-02-2024, 02:42 PM #1
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Default MI6 agent Gareth Williams found dead in a holdall with zips

[Has the mystery of the 'spy in the bag'
finally been solved?
Scotland Yard finds MI6 agent
Gareth Williams who was found in a
holdall with zips padlocked together
in his bathtub
'was likely alone when he died'

Williams was found dead in August 2010
, eight days after he was last seen alive
He was a codebreaker working
for MI6 in London on secondment
from GCHQ]



Good, he left his wig out.
Helps Police understand about him.




Not him.

ABOVE 2 Photos
[Peter Faulding attempts to lock himself inside a holdall.

He failed to do this 300 times]






https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...padlocked.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams

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Old 04-02-2024, 03:54 PM #2
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I think the police came to the conclusion he died as a result of a kinky game gone wrong. Apparently he would do this thing whereby he would almost pass out and die, but just stop that from happening in time.

That was the 'thrill'. But it went wrong.

Same with that actor David Caradine who died in similar circumstanes, except I think he hung himself up on a door and died.


But Gareth was also a cross dresser. Apparently police found £20,000 worth of women's clothes in his flat and a garage he had.
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Sure Gusto
very possible
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Well I'm going off a 30 minute documentary I saw about 10 years ago.
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…when/if a body in bag is found…my thoughts would never instinctively go to them having placed themselves in there and sealed it all up…very bizarre…
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people are strange for sure, but i just can't compute someone putting themselves in a bag for a sexual thrill. I would be looking for another explanation
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…yeah, me neither…found naked and decomposing in a bag and alone is just too, too incredibly sad ….and the thought that it was by his own hand, you know…?..it’s just hard to get thoughts around that…
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It went wrong


He died alone.
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It went wrong


He died alone.
…I’m strangely listening to this atm…

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…I’m strangely listening to this atm…

That’s a beautiful song
A friend was telling me he went to family members cremation the the other day and to sum up her sense of humour she was carried into the chapel with Johnny cash’s ring of fire.
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people are strange for sure, but i just can't compute someone putting themselves in a bag for a sexual thrill. I would be looking for another explanation
You're looking for another explanation because you're not perverted and kinky in the extreme.

There are many instances where people have put themselves in the most bizarre situations that bring them to a gasp of breath of death.

I don't understand it either, but I know this perversion exists.
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Not such an open and shut case.
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Excuse me but Zips had absolutely NOTHING to do with this.
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I suppose it could be murder. As he was a spy?
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You're looking for another explanation because you're not perverted and kinky in the extreme.

There are many instances where people have put themselves in the most bizarre situations that bring them to a gasp of breath of death.

I don't understand it either, but I know this perversion exists.
As a pervert I can confirm this.
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I suppose it could be murder. As he was a spy?
It could be a stitch-up.
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Same with that actor David Caradine who died in similar circumstanes, except I think he hung himself up on a door and died.
Funny (...?) story but when I was at University living in uni accommodation, I was innocently making my dinner in the kitchen when another guy from my halls burst into the kitchen really upset, incoherently wailing that he had almost died, then announced that he had been hanging himself from the back of his door for sexual jollies for weeks, and that this time he had almost passed out and only at the last second snapped back to reality, and nearly didn't manage to get himself down in time.

... lol ... I mean come on man that's a story you take to the grave...
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Kylie M's old xtc boyfriend killed himself on a hotel bedroom door too, so that pastime is pretty well known. I also heard of someone that was found in a wardrobe, so I understand the principle, i just don't see how a suitcase could perform the same type of gratification, but yeah, it takes all sorts
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…I’m more up for a bag for life really…
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Kylie M's old xtc boyfriend killed himself on a hotel bedroom door too, so that pastime is pretty well known. I also heard of someone that was found in a wardrobe, so I understand the principle, i just don't see how a suitcase could perform the same type of gratification, but yeah, it takes all sorts
Restriction/crushing is definitely a fetish.
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…I’m more up for a bag for life really…
At 30 pence each it’s killing a lot of people
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I blame Ryanair. Bags used to be much bigger before they brought in all their stupid restrictions.

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Restriction/crushing is definitely a fetish.

Yes it is sad
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…it’s incredibly sad…dying alone in such an accidental way….and only one single hair found at the scene and no fingerprints…I assume that means one hair that wasn’t identified as his and no fingerprints that weren’t his either…
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