[arista]

They will allow
some in private ownership.

This means they must stay in power
which stinks.

To be announced today
Louise Hayes, Shadow Transport Secretary.


Was debated on Newsnight BBC2HD.

[joeysteele]

A policy I firmly support.
About time they cemented they will do this OVER the next 5 years.

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully they're telling the truth.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

A policy I firmly support.
About time they cemented they will do this OVER the next 5 years.

Yes, 5years and over that.


Which means if
the general election after the first 5years
we change power.

This plan can be stopped

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, 5years and over that.


Which means if
the general election after the first 5years
we change power.

This plan can be stopped

I don't understand.

They are going to do this over the next 5 years.
There's no word of 6 to 10 years at all

Government's can have 5 YEARS in power before elections.
So if they're going to do it over 5 years.
It would all be done by the next election anyhow.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Hopefully they're telling the truth.

I think they are and I hope it IS in the manifesto.
It's a popular measure with the public overall.

This is a policy I myself can certainly be eager to see done.

[Crimson Dynamo]

British Rail

that went well

[bots]

i remember what a shambles it was before privatisation, and there were more strikes then too

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i remember what a shambles it was before privatisation, and there were more strikes then too

Well privatisation hasn't done much to change that has it

It seems the only thing that's improved is the food available.

It doesn't have to go back to how things were.
Obviously I wasn't around then.
However my Father used the train a lot as he could catch up with work material on it
He found it reliable no matter where he was travelling to.

He moaned a plenty after privatisation as to both costs and reliability.

It's actually a policy more supported by some margin by rail users now.
So Id like to see it given a chance

Privatisation was done before I was born on things or when I just was.
Researching by my own means and looking back.
I'd have seen privatisation of Rail, Water and Energy as one of the biggest cons ever.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i remember what a shambles it was before privatisation, and there were more strikes then too

Lets bring back "The age of the train"

what could possibly go wrong!

Youtube video

[Cherie]

why does everything take so long, I am sure they could do it in 3 years for instance?

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't understand.

They are going to do this over the next 5 years.
There's no word of 6 to 10 years at all

Government's can have 5 YEARS in power before elections.
So if they're going to do it over 5 years.
It would all be done by the next election anyhow.

It is estimated
that it will take more than 5 years.

Some will stay private, as well.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

why does everything take so long, I am sure they could do it in 3 years for instance?

That I understand
due to Contracts already signed

Labour will wait for each one to end
then take it over.


This means never spending more money
on purchasing from a company

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Lets bring back "The age of the train"

what could possibly go wrong!

No, LT
do not bring that Dead Evil Child Rapist
into this thread.
Please.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

why does everything take so long, I am sure they could do it in 3 years for instance?

in 5 years time all the contracts in place at mo will have expired

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

No, LT
do not bring that Dead Evil Child Rapist
into this thread.
Please.

Jimmy was the face of British Rail

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

It is estimated
that it will take more than 5 years.

Some will stay private, as well.

I haven't heard anywhere where it will take more than 5 years.

[user104658]

Bringing it back to public ownership doesn't necessarily mean it has to go back to "the way it was" - at the very least, the "major" routes spanning the country to and from London should not be privately operated. Making them reliable and accessible is a huge economic positive.

They also need to get their heads out of the past and forget about the idea that "faster routes to London" is the key -- shaving an hour or two off a journey, for people who need to travel to and from London regularly, is totally irrelevant... what is needed, is trains with ample room/tray tables suitable for laptops, and decently fast, reliable internet. THAT is what is currently missing. Most people can carry out their entire work day so long as they have a computer & reliable access... whether they're sitting in an office, at home or on a train.

Currently we're stuck with (usually) Virgin for cross country train journeys and their train WiFi is abysmal.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Jimmy was the face of British Rail

Yes, Sadly he was,
it is Good the Labour Party
is not using that Evil Dead Child Rapist.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, Sadly he was,
it is Good the Labour Party
is not using that Evil Dead Child Rapist.

Imagine if they did actually use the dug-up corpse of Jimmy Saville, propped up at a train table with a wee Tesco meal deal, to advertise their new railway. The slogan could be "Just like horrendous BBC paedo Jimmy Saville... private railways are DEAD! Hooray!"

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Imagine if they did actually use the dug-up corpse of Jimmy Saville, propped up at a train table with a wee Tesco meal deal, to advertise their new railway. The slogan could be "Just like horrendous BBC paedo Jimmy Saville... private railways are DEAD! Hooray!"

What are you smoking?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Smallest Boy LT gets a train most weekends and I pick him up, its almost always bang on time in fact more times is a wee bit early

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Smallest Boy LT gets a train most weekends and I pick him up, its almost always bang on time in fact more times is a wee bit early

Local jaunts around the area with ScotRail are very different to trying to travel the length of the UK though. Travelling from Glasgow/Edinburgh to London is 8-out-of-ten times a stressful nightmare, and if you're setting off from any further north than that it's even worse... and the links between major "non-London" are utter crap. It shouldn't require two separate changes to get from one top 5 UK city to another. Just utterly pish service.

[Cherie]

I don't think the railways are that bad, they should start with the water companies and nationalise them, EVERYONE is paying for their mishandling

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think the railways are that bad, they should start with the water companies and nationalise them, EVERYONE is paying for their mishandling

No Government can afford the cost
of Water Company - Take Overs.

You do understand the Owners are from
China, USA all over the bloody place.



I think Slims
Corbyn said he would take them over
but failed to win an Election.............