[smudgie]

Disgusting.
Why would any husband let another man pick up the tab for clothes for his wife
All sounds like Robin Hood in reverse with this shower of $hits.

[MTVN]

Meanwhile they got rid of Boris for being given a birthday cake

[Beso]

She works in the NHS, should be awkward signing off the deaths of the pensioners rushed fo hospital with hypothermia this winter.

[bots]

It's very much giving me the vibes of Tony and Cherry Blair, they were both in it for all they could get

[Cherie]

Rumours abound that Labour are going to row back on this .... watch this space

[bots]

yep, we will see. At the moment there is no way labour will win a second term

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bots

yep, we will see. At the moment there is no way labour will win a second term

I am not sure they want one they way things are going

[joeysteele]

The members and the voters that make their views known, ( the voters still sticking around that is), have been on about this since September last year.
We as members have never stopped complaining about it although I myself do not think winter fuel assistance should be paid to everyone of pension age.

However thankfully not just a good number but now getting close to a majority of MPs are now wanting this changed.
At least altered to take in more pensioners above the pension credit trigger.
If not a complete reversal.

There's one though at present not listening, certainly to us members and that is Ms Reeves.
Her sister Ellie is equally as annoying too in her dismissals.
According to Reeves there isn't an alternative to doing this it seems.
Which frankly I think she's completely wrong on.
There are alternatives and now I hope with heading to the majority of MPs on board to try to get a rethink for this year.

I've heard it said the Labour manifesto of 1983 under Michael Foot was the longest suicide note in history.
Well from any government this policy of stopping this winter fuel assistance, must surely go down as a deliberate throwing off the cliff of Labour and what it should stand for.
This has to be partly reversed.

I agree with bots, there will be no chance of any second term if this stays in place but for other things too.
Not the Farmers, I don't give a damn about those moaners
If it wasn't more like a cop out, I could be more convinced that it is looking like from this first year that Labour's hierarchy actually regret winning last year and don't even wish to next time round.

Yet none of this had to be, Reeves had other ways to make savings than this.
Plus the changes to qualify for PIP, is going to be another issue, we the members are furious about, plus now too a growing number of MPs thankfully.

This Chancellor needs to look elsewhere to make savings.
OR she should be made to go with all the chaos admittedly that would bring to the government.
Your Chancellor is the last person you want to lose or change.

[Livia]

Ł1.5 billion a year, and rising, housing illegal migrants last year Just saying...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Disgusting.
Why would any husband let another man pick up the tab for clothes for his wife
All sounds like Robin Hood in reverse with this shower of $hits.

We miss you Smudgie

[Cherie]

I understand the row back was messily announced at PMQs today

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I understand the row back was messily announced at PMQs today

he just said he wanted more pensioners to get the allowance, he didn't say any more would actually get it. He is playing around with words again. That is exactly what Blair used to do with a smirk