[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The govs just gleefully jumping up and down on the heads of the poor.

For the first time ever.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The govs just gleefully jumping up and down on the heads of the poor.

If you consider newbuilds, astroturf and a season ticket to the footie to be "poor" I guess. More cashed-up dodgy tradies out there than anything else let's face it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…there wasn’t anything to ‘solve’ with the riots and violence…they weren’t looking for solving …

Starmer has to solve the illegal migrants


Ammi - are you aware of what they shout

[Livia]

Locking up some mindless thugs doesn't mean the whole country is fine with mass, unfettered immigration.

4000 illegals have arrived by boat since Labour got in.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

Locking up some mindless thugs doesn't mean the whole country is fine with mass, unfettered immigration.

4000 illegals have arrived by boat since Labour got in.

It's just too much. We don't have the resources to accommodate all these immigrants.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Starmer has to solve the illegal migrants


Ammi - are you aware of what they shout

Yes it needs addressing. Definitely.

[bots]

people are always a hair breadth from going on the streets. There will always be some reason for discontent and that is amplified these days by social media.

Riots are something we are going to have to get used to. It will be rinse and repeat from now on.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Locking up some mindless thugs doesn't mean the whole country is fine with mass, unfettered immigration.

The only way that i see a protest to be taken seriously is if its done by women and children only on a scale never seen before in history

No screaming or shouting just a silent protest of women and children in every town/village and city across the country

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes it needs addressing. Definitely.

Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

We just don't have the resources for this. How many can we take? It's all on the taxpayers backs.

[Livia]

As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We just don't have the resources for this. How many can we take? It's all on the taxpayers backs.

Yes PM Starmer
must adrees this


In Northern Ireland, their Parliament was recalled
to debate their problems

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Last night no one did. It was supposed to be 100 protests?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Originally Posted by arista

Yes PM Starmer
must adrees this


In Northern Ireland, their Parliament was recalled
to debate their problems

I'm all for helping others, but we're going to run out of money at some point?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

They're protected and they don't even bother to hide it.
What about all the other communities? It's not fair. Government should protect everyone, not just a select few.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Yes good they are going to Jail.

[joeysteele]

There's always more crossings in the summer months.
That was predicted way before even the election was called

These boat crossings increased under the last government for several years.
Apart from the eventual Albanian agreement.

Just as immigration generally has increased dramatically over the decade plus of the last government.
It ended up at least 3 times the amount it was in 2010 when the last change of government occurred.

Whipping up support against immigration is what has in a big part contributed to sanctioning these criminals as rioters now.
From the possible mindsets of others who hold a more biased anti immigration viewpoint.

With the consequences of these destructive and violent rampages occurring now, fulled in part by the acual criminal rioters just even in their warped way thinking they're actually SUPPORTED.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There's always more crossings in the summer months.
That was predicted way before even the election was called

These boat crossings increased under the last government for several years.
Apart from the eventual Albanian agreement.

Just as immigration generally has increased dramatically over the decade plus of the last government.
It ended up at least 3 times the amount it was in 2010 when the last change of government occurred.

Whipping up support against immigration is what has in a big part contributed to sanctioning these criminals as rioters now.
From the possible mindsets of others who hold a more biased anti immigration viewpoint.

With the consequences of these destructive and violent rampages occurring now, fulled in part by the acual criminal rioters just even in their warped way thinking they're actually SUPPORTED.

But they need to check. Who knows who is coming over? We have no idea who they are.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

Spot on Ammi.

You do realise the only people who THINK they know are those against immigration.
I stress THINk they know.

You are right.

These riots in the main started on a blatant lie and misinformation of the identity of the murderer.
Sparked this off from hate towards Muslims by those organising these riots and supporting them.
Whether in person or from their armchairs.

These are in the bigger part racist riots.
Using bits of other immigration as another warped justification for going out and rioting.

Mob rule must NEVER be supported by anyone.
Or by deflection, or justification of same for violence against communities residencies and other human beings.

[bots]

i actually think that the reasons for rioting were much simpler than are being presented.

Social media groups know what makes people angry, they spoon feed people "news" that stokes that anger and then points them in the direction of public disorder.

People think that they have access to all this wealth of news on X, but the reality is they are being played and manipulated all the way and none of them seem to understand this

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But they need to check. Who knows who is coming over? We have no idea who they are.

Just asking.
Why weren't you saying all this over the last 10 years plus?
Puzzling???

No need to answer I'm just curious.