[arista]

Yes, Joey Another Long Review?


Why did Labour say it would be done in a Year?
last year?

Yesterdays Front Page



[Wes Streeting has defended the timescale
for reforming adult social care in England,
with proposals on its long-term funding
unlikely to be delivered before 2028 at the earliest.
The health and social care secretary
is promising "to finally grasp the nettle
on social care reform",
but said on Friday the process "would take time".

The independent commission, chaired
by Baroness Louise Casey,
will begin work in April but is not due
to publish its final report until 2028.

Sarah Woolnough, chief executive of
health think-tank The King's Fund,
told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the
timescale "feels far too long" and urged
the government to look at measures
that could be implemented sooner.

Other councils and care providers
have said the final 2028 report is
too long to wait for the long-term reform
of vital services already on their knees.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c791gyx2n50o

[Oliver_W]

How surprising.

[joeysteele]

No lies at all on this.
It wasn't a lie, there wasn't a time frame put on this issue.
However that's irrelevant because although it's not dumped like the Conservatives did over 14 YEARS.
This is still way too long a wait

There must be some things that can be done in the short term to help improve the desperately poor legacy of the last 14 years of virtually NO addressing of social care whatsoever from Cameron in 2010 to Sunak now just gone.

3 years is too long.
There surely is a way this can be looked into and have recommendations made along the way much quicker than 3 years down the line.
So I hope Wes Streeting will look at this again and realise adult social care needs addressing much quicker.
Yes, it's important to get the right plans operating with ALL the information gathered as to the whole picture.

However much quicker than 3 years is very important, so a 3 year wait is unacceptable.
Doing something in around 3 years+ is far better than the nothing done at all over the last 14 years.
It is though a desperate need to start much sooner rather than later.

[arista]

Joey many clips have been played on Radio and TV.


Labour Never said it would pushed back to the next Election

2028

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Joey many clips have been played on Radio and TV.


Labour Never said it would pushed back to the next Election

2028

arista, I was out campaigning ALL the election.
I KNOW what I was allowed to say.
All I was telling people was that Labour would be planning to deal with and sort out social care .
During the next parliament.
However there was NO quick fix.
That was the official party line.

The next election doesn't have to be until August 2029, so what you are on about as to 2028, I haven't a clue.

I've said 3 years is too long to sort out the chaotic mess of social care left after 14 years of the government YOU supported .
However it was never going to be easily done.

Perhaps you could think about balancing more fairly though and put the blame where it really lies.
From the Blair/ Brown years then astonishingly through the next 5 Con PMs over 14 YEARS.

[arista]

It is wrong,
to kick this into the long grass

Reviews Every Time a New Leader Takes Over
does the same.


Close to the Next Election

[bots]

The report isn't coming till 28, the actions recommended in that will come way after that, so it probably won't be implemented in the term of the government that follows

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

The report isn't coming till 28, the actions recommended in that will come way after that, so it probably won't be implemented in the term of the government that follows

Yes it Stinks

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

It is wrong,
to kick this into the long grass

Reviews Every Time a New Leader Takes Over
does the same.


Close to the Next Election

To kick something into the long grass is to deliberately delay some issues with the hope it will end up being forgotten about.

That's NOT the case here at all.

It's a mess of being made over decades, you cannot sort a mess of that length and complexity in months.

However what I will concede is just how many reviews, commission, inquiries does this lot need to arrive at ANY action.
It is ridiculous.

Things do need to be done now and at the very least in the immediate future as to adult social care.

However again, it's extremely rich and in fact hypocritical for current past Con supporters screaming at this delay..
Utter hypocrisy.
Where was their hysterical screaming when even in 2019 Johnson said he had a plan ready to go on social care.
When he hadn't a solitary thing and did nothing either.
Except put up NI to the groans of his successor which was then reversed by the next successor.
With NOTHING done re adult social care at all.

There's no way however in my view, this lot can come back in Summer 2029 and not have addressed significantly the adult social care problem.
So this procedure in place needs speeding up considerably.
I'm pretty sure many Labour MPs and members will be more demanding it is too.

[arista]

[So this procedure in place needs speeding up considerably.
I'm pretty sure many Labour MPs and members
will be more demanding it is too.]


Yes Parliament it will
I think it will all get the
reply New Review is being worked on
or something stupid........



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[bots]

Realistically, labour get a pass for 2 years. If people don't see real improvement in things they care about, then reform may get the traction they need