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The 988 National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline will stop providing tailored support options to LGBTQ+ youth and young adults on July 17, according to a statement on a federal agency’s website.

The decision preempts the Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal to cut funding for 988’s LGBTQ+ youth and young adult services, and is raising alarm bells among LGBTQ+ advocates.

Federal data shows the LGBTQ+ youth program has served nearly 1.3 million callers since it started in September 2022. The services were accessible under the “Press 3” option on the phone or by replying “PRIDE” via text.

The Trevor Project said it received official notice Tuesday that the program was ending. The nonprofit is one of seven centers that provides 988 crisis support services for LGBTQ+ people — and serves nearly half of the people who contact the lifeline.

“ Suicide prevention is about people, not politics,” Trevor Project CEO Jaymes Black said in a statement Wednesday. “The administration’s decision to remove a bipartisan, evidence-based service that has effectively supported a high-risk group of young people through their darkest moments is incomprehensible.”

The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA, and as of June 2025, more than $33 million has been spent on the services. The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

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Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.
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Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.
And what do you think about the gay teens who call up being they are on the brink of suicide and need tailored assistance now having that removed?

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It’s almost as if LT still hasn’t figured out that the “L”, “G” and “B” exist too.

But hey, when your concern for kids is only performative and your politics are built on outrage I guess it’s hard to keep up. Bless
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Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.
Stop pushing gender ideology, sure.

But denying young people an anti-suicide service?
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They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.
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Other great related news that relates to this happened just a day ago

The Supreme Court just upheld Tennessee’s ban on sex changes, puberty
blockers and hormones for kids. It’s now illegal to medically transition a child in
Tennessee AND we set the precedent for the entire country.

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They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.
Yeah, funny how you lot scream “equality” when it’s convenient — but the second marginalised people ask for something that actually meets their needs, it’s suddenly “special treatment.”

Queer youth face higher suicide rates, are more likely to be kicked out, abused, or shunned because they’re queer. But sure, let’s pretend a one-size-fits-all hotline magically understands that trauma.

This isn’t about cost. You just don’t like the idea of queer people getting anything that acknowledges their reality. Just admit it — you’re not mad about a phone line. You’re mad they exist.
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They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.
No extra money is being spent on it, and no money will be saved in cutting it, please read the article, I put it in bold.

Also in bold is where it states nearly HALF of the callers to the suicide prevention line are LGBTQ+, therefore it stands to reason there needs to be additional focus on that cohort because they make up a large percentage of it's callers.

Often LGBTQ+ issues are specific and need tailored help by people who are training in that specific sector. That's why.
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Stop pushing gender ideology, sure.

But denying young people an anti-suicide service?
It will still fund the wider 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline - of which the LGBTQ youth option is one part - and that all callers will receive "compassion and help".
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The Supreme Court just upheld Tennessee’s ban on sex changes, puberty
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Dodging the question I see. Nice.

okay, you fair enough you just answered it

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Had to shoe horn come sort of far right jargon in though
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No extra money is being spent on it, and no money will be saved in cutting it, please read the article, I put it in bold. .
The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA
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Yeah, funny how you lot scream “equality” when it’s convenient — but the second marginalised people ask for something that actually meets their needs, it’s suddenly “special treatment.”

Queer youth face higher suicide rates, are more likely to be kicked out, abused, or shunned because they’re queer. But sure, let’s pretend a one-size-fits-all hotline magically understands that trauma.

This isn’t about cost. You just don’t like the idea of queer people getting anything that acknowledges their reality. Just admit it — you’re not mad about a phone line. You’re mad they exist.



If that accusation were true, then I wouldn't have donated 50 pound to a member of TIBB who was doing a fundraiser to highlight awareness for suicide prevention in the LGBTQ youth...you really should stop hurling these wild accusations about Glenn.

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The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA
Yes. Scrapping it is not going to save any money, the overall budget is the same meaning while the LGBTQ+ line has been defunded the money isn't being saved:

The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

Even if it was, is it not part of society, as well as economic logic, that specific budgets go to specific causes because it's necessary. Investment/Funding into women's domestic abuse support will be greater than for mens because women are more at risk of domestic abuse, parents receive benefits that people without children do not to help raise the next generation, etc... do you suggest that all funding and benefits should be equal across all demographics even if the need for such funding skews massively in one direction. This would leave things either massively underfunded or massively overfunded. Doesn't make logical sense.
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If that accusation were true, then I wouldn't have donated 50 pound to a member of TIBB who was doing a fundraiser to highlight awareness for suicide prevention in the LGBTQ youth...you really should stop hurling these wild accusations about Glenn.
Ah, the classic “I donated once so I can’t be homophobic” defence. Textbook.

Donating £50 doesn’t erase years of spewing bile or calling gay people predators. You don’t get to buy a clean slate with a charity receipt.
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Ah, the classic “I donated once so I can’t be homophobic” defence. Textbook.

Donating £50 doesn’t erase years of spewing bile or calling gay people predators. You don’t get to buy a clean slate with a charity receipt.
Funnily enough the person I donated it to didn't thank me either.
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Funnily enough the person I donated it to didn't thank me either.
Support isn’t just about money, it’s about not dehumanising people the rest of the time. You don’t get gratitude for damage control.
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Yes. Scrapping it is not going to save any money, the overall budget is the same meaning while the LGBTQ+ line has been defunded the money isn't being saved:

The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

Even if it was, is it not part of society, as well as economic logic, that specific budgets go to specific causes because it's necessary. Investment/Funding into women's domestic abuse support will be greater than for mens because women are more at risk of domestic abuse, parents receive benefits that people without children do not to help raise the next generation, etc... do you suggest that all funding and benefits should be equal across all demographics even if the need for such funding skews massively in one direction. This would leave things either massively underfunded or massively overfunded. Doesn't make logical sense.



All that means is that the operators on line 3 will still be working the lines...And the help will still be available at the end of the phone. Only difference is, and seems like the only thing people are concerned about is the fact the line 3 label has been removed...
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All that means is that the operators on line 3 will still be working the lines...And the help will still be available at the end of the phone. Only difference is, and seems like the only thing people are concerned about is the fact the line 3 label has been removed...
Which directs them to specific groups training in that specific issue, now they could be sent to someone who doesn't specialise in that specific issue.

Your objection was that it shouldn't receive extra funding. Now we've established that it doesn't, what is the issue with having a specific option for specific demographic who need specially trained assistance in that specific area? What's the harm?

How many times have you called any company that has various options and you've chosen that specific option because you know it's going to get you the best most effective help possible. We do it all the time. Now it's like you calling a company and needing to speak to someone about your oven, but you've reached someone trained in fridge freezers. Only instead of kitchen appliances we are talking about peoples lives here.
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All that means is that the operators on line 3 will still be working the lines...And the help will still be available at the end of the phone. Only difference is, and seems like the only thing people are concerned about is the fact the line 3 label has been removed...
No, the issue isn’t a “label” being removed, it’s that a lifeline tailored for queer people in crisis was quietly scrapped by people who don’t give a **** if they live or die.

LGBTQ-specific help exists because general lines don’t always get it. It’s not about branding, it’s about survival.

But sure, keep pretending it’s just about wording. Must be nice to live in a world where that’s all you see.
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No, the issue isn’t a “label” being removed, it’s that a lifeline tailored for queer people in crisis was quietly scrapped by people who don’t give a **** if they live or die.

LGBTQ-specific help exists because general lines don’t always get it. It’s not about branding, it’s about survival.

But sure, keep pretending it’s just about wording. Must be nice to live in a world where that’s all you see.
Yes, I'm not sure why Beso is pretending medical specialisation is a new thing.
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And note in the announcement

""On July 17, the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline will no longer silo LGB+ youth services"

using the LGB+ acronym
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Yes, I'm not sure why Beso is pretending medical specialisation is a new thing.
He’s in the same camp as “why isn’t there a straight pride”

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Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.
This is harmful to the whole group community though.

And personally I do think that Trans people deserve help too, if they're mentally unwell.
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