[Kate!]

An asylum seeker is someone who has left their home country and is seeking protection in another country, claiming they fear persecution or harm, and their claim is still being assessed. An illegal immigrant, or undocumented migrant, is someone who has entered or remained in a country without the legal right to do so, often without proper documentation. While an asylum seeker is seeking legal status, an illegal immigrant lacks legal status.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Asylum Seeker:
Definition:
An asylum seeker is an individual who has crossed an international border and applied for asylum in another country, claiming they fear persecution or harm if they return to their home country.
Status:
Their claim is under consideration by the host country's immigration authorities.
Legality:
While they may have entered the country irregularly, they are not necessarily illegal immigrants as they are actively seeking legal protection through the asylum process.
Right to Apply:
Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in a country that has signed the 1951 Refugee Convention, and they have the right to remain until their claim is assessed.
Example:
A person fleeing war in their home country arrives at an airport in a different country and applies for asylum. They are an asylum seeker while their claim is being processed.
Illegal Immigrant (or Undocumented Migrant):
Definition: An illegal immigrant is someone who resides in a country without the legal right to do so, having either entered the country without authorization or overstayed a visa.
Status: They are considered to be in violation of that country's immigration laws.
Legality: They lack legal status and may face detention or deportation.
Example: Someone enters a country on a tourist visa and then stays beyond the visa's expiration date, or someone enters the country without authorization. They are considered illegal immigrants.
Key Differences:
Intent:
An asylum seeker intends to apply for legal protection, while an illegal immigrant may or may not have had any intent to seek legal status.
Legal Status:
An asylum seeker has applied for legal status, while an illegal immigrant lacks legal status.
Process:
An asylum seeker is undergoing a legal process to determine their status, while an illegal immigrant is in violation of immigration laws.

[Kate!]

To add to the above.

Asylum seekers, genuine cases are placed in sub standard accommodation.

Illegal migrants, of which there are many, many more entering on a daily basis, are placed in 3 star and above hotels. Hence all the countrywide protests that have been going on.

The public know what's what, and we are sick of it.

[Glenn.]

so unbelievably wrong

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

so unbelievably wrong

It's taken from a Government website.

[Glenn.]

Illegal immigrants aren’t housed by the government. Except the ones in detention centres.

This may help clarify it for you


1. Immigration Removal Centres (IRCs)
•Secure detention facilities.
•Used to hold people:
•Awaiting deportation.
•Who have overstayed visas.
•Whose asylum claims have been refused.
•There are currently 7 IRCs in the UK (e.g. Harmondsworth, Yarl’s Wood).
•Capacity: Around 2,000 people total.

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2. Hotels and Temporary Accommodation (if asylum claimed)

If someone enters illegally but claims asylum, they are no longer considered illegal. While their claim is processed, they may be placed in:
•Hotels (e.g. budget chains) due to a shortage of housing.
•Dispersal accommodation (shared houses or hostels across the UK).
•Managed by contractors like Serco, Mears, or Clearsprings.
•In 2023, over 50,000 asylum seekers were living in hotels, costing taxpayers Ł8 million per day.

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3. If not detained or claiming asylum

Illegal migrants who are:
•Not in detention
•Not claiming asylum
•Often live informally:
•Sofa-surfing
•With friends or relatives
•In overcrowded or unsafe housing
•Sometimes homeless or working illegally for shelter

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

To add to the above.

Asylum seekers, genuine cases are placed in sub standard accommodation.

Illegal migrants, of which there are many, many more entering on a daily basis, are placed in 3 star and above hotels. Hence all the countrywide protests that have been going on.

The public know what's what, and we are sick of it.

..if they are illegal then how do they get nice hotels on the governments dime? Never understood that

[Glenn.]

They don’t Vicky. That’s what she’s trying to say happens.

Facts and processes apparently mean nothing.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

..if they are illegal then how do they get nice hotels on the governments dime? Never understood that

It doesn’t make sense because it’s obviously not true, illegal immigrants are illegal because they’re not supposed to be here and are not known to be here by the government, so this notion that they get given everything they want instead of white people is nothing but racist propaganda

[Beso]

Come by boat equals illigal..

As does arriving with no documentation...hence the need for passports.



People can dress it up in a big pink frilly asylum seeking dress all they want...but the illigal came before the asylum seeking..perhaps as not to be confused with chickens and eggs we could agree to call them illigal migrants with no other option but to claim they are seeking asylum.. but they would then have to have something to seek asylum from...the massive majority don't, hence why they ditch any form of documentation that would identify them.

[Glenn.]

Can’t even ****ing spell illegal

[Kate!]

No need to swear at him. Dearie me.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Can’t even ****ing spell illegal

Such uncouth language from a wordsmith.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

Such uncouth language from a wordsmith.

It doesn’t help your case at all. At least make it believable.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It doesn’t help your case at all. At least make it believable.

Still here are we.

[Crimson Dynamo]