[arista]

This is Dumb


Labour is way behind in their mega house building
today 8 Council Allotments to be dug up
for Housing.

Was announced on GMBHD itv
today.



[Allotments are small, rented plots of land
where residents can grow their own fruit
and vegetables, and are protected from
development or sale under the Allotment Act 1925,
except with ministerial sign-off.

A government spokesperson said strict criteria
were in place for allotment sales,
which should only be made where they
are "clearly necessary"]


Debate was on Radio 5



Text From BBC

[Cherie]

Horrible decision, the value of allotments in terms of exercise and mental health is well documented, there are so many brown sites they can use, honestly its almost like they sit around and ask each other what can we do to upset people the most and then do it, given the precarious situation the world is in with regard to food safety as well, this decision is just inexplicable

[Oliver_W]

This government is just horrible.

[bots]

serious question. Has this government done anything since it came to power where the majority of the public thought it was a good idea

[Cherie]

Get out there and get more exercise so you are healthier and don't need the NHS in the meantime we are going to build over allotments and parks

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bots

serious question. Has this government done anything since it came to power where the majority of the public thought it was a good idea

There isn't a hope in hell of this shower getting in again with Starmer at the helm, they say a week is a long time in politics but no one will forget their first year in power

Pensioners
Disabled
Farmers
and now they are coming for the Just about Managing

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Horrible decision, the value of allotments in terms of exercise and mental health is well documented, there are so many brown sites they can use, honestly its almost like they sit around and ask each other what can we do to upset people the most and then do it, given the precarious situation the world is in with regard to food safety as well, this decision is just inexplicable

Yes,
Labour has failed on this.


Yes, even GP's recommend
growing vegetables for
well-being.

[Crimson Dynamo]

houses for who exactly?

Horrible decision

[Cherie]

The 22 billion black hole is now a 42 billion black hole

One year folks in folks ...one year in

[Glenn.]

Allotments sold for development are to be relocated elsewhere.

[bots]

the last time labour were in power, they didn't have all the independent groups that check the government figures

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Allotments sold for development are to be relocated elsewhere.

What not build elsewhere then?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

What not build elsewhere then?

i guess they can relocate to green spaces away from utilities

[thesheriff443]

They are covering their tracks , if allotment renters actually get relocated ones they will be the size of postage stamps
And they shouldn’t be selling to a middle man to make millions they should hire builders and build houses for themselves to clear the housing shortage

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

They are covering their tracks , if allotment renters actually get relocated ones they will be the size of postage stamps
And they shouldn’t be selling to a middle man to make millions they should hire builders and build houses for themselves to clear the housing shortage

They have to relocate like for like.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

They have to relocate like for like.

If you believe that you will believe anything
A relative was involved with a like for like deal involving the council in which everyone who had their old shed removed would get a new one
Half way through the project the money ran out , the ones left without sheds were told they had to buy one themselves

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you believe that you will believe anything
A relative was involved with a like for like deal involving the council in which everyone who had their old shed removed would get a new one
Half way through the project the money ran out , the ones left without sheds were told they had to buy one themselves

Part of the relocation is the purchase of new allotments. A like for like relocation. Soil has to be fertile etc etc.

These are fact that are freely available to view if you actually research it.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Part of the relocation is the purchase of new allotments. A like for like relocation. Soil has to be fertile etc etc.

These are fact that are freely available to view if you actually research it.

What it starts out as and what people actually get is two different things
Look what the labour government promised pre election and look what they are actually doing
My brother owns land and was given verbal permission over the phone then at a site meeting the guy back tracked and basically said there was no written agreement
In the end my brother got the permission that was first agreed to

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Part of the relocation is the purchase of new allotments. A like for like relocation. Soil has to be fertile etc etc.

These are fact that are freely available to view if you actually research it.

Might not suit everyone especially if they dont drive, there are PLENTY brownfields sites, why this specific allotment?

[Cherie]

Anyway I call BS, London Borough of Redbridge are building on green belt and on a local park

[Cherie]

In Storrington, housing association A2Dominion plans to build 78 new homes on allotment land west of Ravenscroft in the village. It says the development will include new allotments ‘for new and existing’ plot holders, as well as a dedicated wildlife area.

Sussexworld

https://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news...ousing-5258071

so where is the like for like? and if they are building 78 homes on the allotments how can they give the same size allotments to new and existing plot holders

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Part of the relocation is the purchase of new allotments. A like for like relocation. Soil has to be fertile etc etc.

These are fact that are freely available to view if you actually research it.

Could you provide a link?

[Glenn.]

https://assets.publishing.service.go...ternatives.pdf

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...ternatives.pdf

Isn't that just a general link to allotments it does not pertain to a specific allotment?

Can you explain how you can build 78 houses on an existing allotment and still provide the same size allotments to existing and new tenants as well as a wild life area.. its must be magic!

[Cherie]

I guess there is no answer to how you can build 78 houses on an allotment and still provide allotments of the same size on the same plot