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Old 19-08-2007, 09:38 AM #1
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Default Puzzle: When did time begin?

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it started a long time ago lolol

get it a long TIME ago looooooool

ok ill shut up
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it started a long time ago lolol

get it a long TIME ago looooooool

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but the scary awnser to the question is it never began
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Yeah it never began, we kinda made it up didn't we?
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Time began when I said so
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i no we made it up
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I searched for when did time begin and all it comes up with is the past goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ect.
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when i opened my eyes thats when time bgan for me sorry rofl , right back to subject when we were all created . ie : adam eve , animals ,planets insects when life began is when time began too .
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Time started at the big bang, when a single hydrogen atom exploded. :P
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but time was around before that
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what was before the big bang?
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There was nothing before that.

Time itself started at the big bang.
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but there has always been time since forever
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There was nothing before that.

Time itself started at the big bang.
I understand that this is scientifically accepted, but I just find it so hard to get my head around the idea that there was nothing and then suddenly there was TheUniverse. If there was nothing, then why was there just one hydrogen atom and where was it, and what caused it to suddenly explode.??
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No, there was nothingness before the big bang. Absolutely nothing. Nothing was there, so time didn't exist.

Time as we know it on Earth, isn't time, it's just us measuring it. Which leads me to the measurement theory.....(But I won't go into it now)

Time isn't a constant thing we're stuck inside.

I don't know much about physics but, I do know that speed and distance are closely linked to time. We can look back to the start of the universe even with our naked eye by just looking at stars which are probably dead by now, but the light has taken so long to get here, that only now we see them.

Time started at the big bang, before that there was nothing. There's no point on trying to imagine nothingness, because we couldn't actually go outside the universe because there's nothing there. We can't go to the place called 'no-where' outside the universe cuz it doesn't exist. It's just nothing.

The universe is the be all and end all.
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There was nothing before that.

Time itself started at the big bang.
I understand that this is scientifically accepted, but I just find it so hard to get my head around the idea that there was nothing and then suddenly there was TheUniverse. If there was nothing, then why was there just one hydrogen atom and where was it, and what caused it to suddenly explode.??
This all happened in the first few minutes after the big bang.
Hydrogen is the simplest element. It's got one electron, one proton and one neutron. The reason it came together would have had something to do with anti-matter which exists in vacuum (anti particles). A few quarks (which are now believed to be the fundamentals of protons and neutrons) would have come together to form protons and neutrons in different orders. Neutrons have a neutral charge, and protons a posative charge as they came together the overall sub-atomic particle would be posative, which would attract and electron which is negative. The reason it would have exploded is to do with the electronic configuration of hydrogen. It's unstable because it only has one electron in it's first shell, (it needs at least 2). 2 hydrogen atoms would have fused to create helium, which is more stable because it has 2 electrons in its first shell (which makes it quite unreactable). Hence the birth of the universe. In turn, different nuclear fusions and some chemical reactions took place to form lithium next, thence all the elements in the universe. All the elements that exist today were created in the first few minutes after the big bang. In a way, the big bang is still happening today, with the universe still expanding.

This explains what happened immediately after the big bang, I'm not sure exactly how it all started.
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Yeah time and space started at the Big Bang.
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There was nothing before that.

Time itself started at the big bang.
I understand that this is scientifically accepted, but I just find it so hard to get my head around the idea that there was nothing and then suddenly there was TheUniverse. If there was nothing, then why was there just one hydrogen atom and where was it, and what caused it to suddenly explode.??
Hydrogen is the simplest element. It's got one electron, one proton and one neutron. The reason it came together would have had something to do with anti-matter which exists in vacuum (anti particles). A few quarks (which are now believed to be the fundamentals of protons and neutrons) would have come together to form protons and electrons in different orders. Neutrons have a neutral charge, and protons a posative charge as they came together the overall sub-atomic particle would be posative, which would attract and electron which is negative. The reason it would have exploded is to do with the electronic configuration of the hydrogen. It's unstable because it only has one electron in it's first shell, (it needs at least 2). 2 hydrogen atoms would have fused to create helium, which is more stable because it has 2 electrons in its first shell (which makes it quite unreactable). Hence the birth of the universe.


And you claim to know only a little bit of physics.lol.

Anyway, thanks for that,and very interesting too. I was going to ask why would there be hydrogen if there was nothing, but I guess that's what anti matter is......nothing.
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There was nothing before that.

Time itself started at the big bang.
I understand that this is scientifically accepted, but I just find it so hard to get my head around the idea that there was nothing and then suddenly there was TheUniverse. If there was nothing, then why was there just one hydrogen atom and where was it, and what caused it to suddenly explode.??
Hydrogen is the simplest element. It's got one electron, one proton and one neutron. The reason it came together would have had something to do with anti-matter which exists in vacuum (anti particles). A few quarks (which are now believed to be the fundamentals of protons and neutrons) would have come together to form protons and electrons in different orders. Neutrons have a neutral charge, and protons a posative charge as they came together the overall sub-atomic particle would be posative, which would attract and electron which is negative. The reason it would have exploded is to do with the electronic configuration of the hydrogen. It's unstable because it only has one electron in it's first shell, (it needs at least 2). 2 hydrogen atoms would have fused to create helium, which is more stable because it has 2 electrons in its first shell (which makes it quite unreactable). Hence the birth of the universe.


And you claim to know only a little bit of physics.lol.

Anyway, thanks for that,and very interesting too. I was going to ask why would there be hydrogen if there was nothing, but I guess that's what anti matter is......nothing.
Chemistry's my forte.

And, no problem. I probably haven't explained it very accurately, but you get the idea.
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And you claim to know only a little bit of physics.lol.

Anyway, thanks for that,and very interesting too. I was going to ask why would there be hydrogen if there was nothing, but I guess that's what anti matter is......nothing.
Anti-matter is not "nothing". Nothing is exactly what it means in the sense what was before the Big Bang. Time and space simply didn't exist.
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Hydrogen is the simplest element. It's got one electron, one proton and one neutron. The reason it came together would have had something to do with anti-matter which exists in vacuum (anti particles). A few quarks (which are now believed to be the fundamentals of protons and neutrons) would have come together to form protons and electrons in different orders. Neutrons have a neutral charge, and protons a posative charge as they came together the overall sub-atomic particle would be posative, which would attract and electron which is negative. The reason it would have exploded is to do with the electronic configuration of the hydrogen. It's unstable because it only has one electron in it's first shell, (it needs at least 2). 2 hydrogen atoms would have fused to create helium, which is more stable because it has 2 electrons in its first shell (which makes it quite unreactable). Hence the birth of the universe.
I don't think that's the reason of the Big Bang because sub-atomic particles fromed shortly after the initial invinitely hot and dense singularity (or explosion) of the Big Bang.
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And you claim to know only a little bit of physics.lol.

Anyway, thanks for that,and very interesting too. I was going to ask why would there be hydrogen if there was nothing, but I guess that's what anti matter is......nothing.
Anti-matter is not "nothing". Nothing is exactly what it means in the sense what was before the Big Bang. Time and space simply didn't exist.
If nothing literally means nothing, then there would be no ingredients for a big bang. Surely it's impossible to create something from absolutely nothing. This is a little bit like the chicken and egg argument about which came first. lol
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but how long has time (as we call it) been ticking?
It will have been ticking before the big bang, and how did an atom get there?
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