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Old 09-08-2007, 11:49 PM #26
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I thought that some of you might find this interesting reading, at least one reporter is asking the same questions as many of us are.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/ww/may_200...ine_mccann.htm
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oo there on ITV News telling everyone there not involved
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My mother just mentioned to me, without me mentioning this topic that I started here that she saw Madelines mother on sky news and the reporter called out to her "If your daughter is watching, what message would you like to give her?" and without looking at the camera, without any emotion and without even stopping she said "I love you" and moved on past the other cameras taking pictures, my mum who saw it said "it was like she was at a film premiere" and I'm sorry but that just sounds way too dodgy for my likeing.
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My mother just mentioned to me, without me mentioning this topic that I started here that she saw Madelines mother on sky news and the reporter called out to her "If your daughter is watching, what message would you like to give her?" and without looking at the camera, without any emotion and without even stopping she said "I love you" and moved on past the other cameras taking pictures, my mum who saw it said "it was like she was at a film premiere" and I'm sorry but that just sounds way too dodgy for my likeing.
That is a bit dodgy
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I feel bad for thinkinh this but I cant help but think the parents are involved, even today on teh tv they showed no emotion, but I suppose thats how some people deal with things
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I normally wouldn't think the parents are involved, but this has dragged on so long that I am beginning to think they are.

It's a shame, I really don't want to think that...
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I'm starting to think they have something to do it..

Something's definitly not right there.
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I know this sounds horrible, but if a single parent or a couple who live in a council estate had left their child on their own then they would have been blamed straight away and their probably wouldnt be as much publicity surrounding it. I really hope she is found but the longer she isnt found the less likely it looks that she is alive.
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I agree Mel. Also, they were SO quick to get the publics money, I mean other children go missing and the mothers and fathers dont want collections and stuff.
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I agree Mel. Also, they were SO quick to get the publics money, I mean other children go missing and the mothers and fathers dont want collections and stuff.
They also don't milk publicity as much as the McCanns.

I mean, I would never wish what happened to them upon any person, but come on...
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My and the McCann's local rag (Leicester Mercury) have been getting some flack as they have been removing any negative comment towards the McCann's from their message boards. People have been questioning how free the press is when they are censoring public opinion and not allowing valid questions.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:45 PM #38
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I think more and more people are now questioning their actions. People somehow felt it was wrong to say they could be involved at first as they are such a "respectable" family. Now when they are saying things like we will not be bullied into returning to the UK, why? why would they want to stay there any longer. Even if Madeline is alive it is highly unlikely that she is still in Portugal. Get home, get some kind of normal routine going for those 2 kids you still have with you.
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yeah i know they wont come home but getting into a routine at home is what i would do home is where i would feel safe any news and they will be cotacted striaght away.
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Leicester has posters everywhere. I don't see the point. She is hardly going to be in her home town. I was asked to put up a poster. I politely refused and was made to feel like a bad man for not wanting her to be found. (well thats how they made me feel) bet what happens when the next child goes missing? Do I take one down and replace it with another, leave both up? And then when the next child goes missing?
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yeah at my daughters school they were giving out yellow ribbon badges, i didnt get one i dont need a badge to show how i feel its to publicised.
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I know this sounds horrible, but if a single parent or a couple who live in a council estate had left their child on their own then they would have been blamed straight away and their probably wouldnt be as much publicity surrounding it.
I couldn't agree with you more on that point.
It's because of the profession of the parents that things have been taken differently. Which we've seen recently with certain terrorist attacks that people with the professions which seem to be of the highest standard still, as people, can do wrong.

I can't understand how they could have gone out for a meal and left their child alone, with two other children and have been fine with it.
Checking every half an hour isn't good enough. You would check every half an hour even when your child was sleeping and in the room next to you!
There was also a baby sitting option available and they chose not to take it and surely one the family members they were on holiday with could have looked after the children.

To me, they're just getting an extended holiday in Portugal.
There's no need for them to be out there! They've explained that they can't stand the Portuguese media so why are they staying there because they know the media will continue to talk about them over there.

Never have I known so much publicity to be focused on one missing child when it certainly isn't a rare occurance. Many children go missing and are never found but nobody hears about it.

In my eyes, the parents definitely are to blame.

Sorry if I offended anyone, I didn't mean to, I'm just expressing my opinion.
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Gracie your opinion is a one shared by many others. People are asking why would they leave their children, why are they still in Protugal, why did they jet off to see the Pope but not to Belgium when their child was possibly sighted.

They say the rumours about them are untrue but are doing little to convince people that they are innocent parents who have lost a child.

They need to get home, and get on with life for the rest of the family, staying in Portugal is doing nothing to help Madeline, it is doing nothing to help the other kids either. They could fly anywhere from the UK if Madeline is found or spotted.
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Nothing you said was offensive Gracie. I believe the reason that this case is getting so much publicity is because the parents are white, middle class, and what is generally classed as 'respectable'. Also, Maddie is a very pretty little girl - and as sad as it is to say it, I don't believe this much effort would have been focussed on a child who was not considered so pretty.

And it's so right that the press are giving these people a far easier ride than they would have given a single parent, or a council estate dweller.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing...woman_syndrome

I honestly believe that if Holly and Jessica had not had that photo of them in there Man U top and been average looking the general public at large would not got so emotionally involved. It is the Dianafication of grief.
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This case has gone on for so long now I just hope the parents get some closure and are not left wondering and hoping. The parents could of easily stopped/prevented it from happening by keeping a closer eye on their kids more so in foreign places. Being docters themselves I do feel they should of known better leaving children alone in the first place.
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By leaving them in a hotel room they probably didnt think their children would be abducted but any one of them could have got up and found something sharp or fallen over. I dont think the parents have anything to do with it and I'm not gonna say they should go home because I dont know how i would react to something like this but they have to think about the two 2 year old children they have and their future as well.
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This case has gone on for so long now I just hope the parents get some closure and are not left wondering and hoping.
Sorry if this causes anyone offence, and as awful as it sounds - but I don't believe the parents are wondering and hoping.
In this case I would love to be wrong but do not think I am

What about the other two kids, is it true that they were returned to England and are living with their grandparents ?

and again I return to the Belgium question :

The one sighting serious enough for a DNA test and they didn't fly off to Belgium to get information from the police.
But they fly off to shake famous peoples hands and have their photo's taken.

Something is not right
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UPDATE - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...post&tid=69212
So, if the headlines are right Madeleine has died and the police 'know' the killers. The question still remains, are the parents to blame?

I'm not sure, but either way my thoughts are with them.
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For leaving them alone YES.
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