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13-09-2007, 01:26 PM | #1 | ||
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I hate it when people referr to the UK as 'England'
it's absolutely annoying, there is 3 other countries part of the UK. nothing against you English, so don't start having a rant at me, I'm just saying being from Wales it's like " oh, we're not alive to the rest of the world." I'm sure most Scottish/N.Ireland people feel the same. |
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13-09-2007, 01:44 PM | #2 | ||
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well Ross ive always been taught that England Ireland Scottland and Wales are all Brittish Isles and they are that we should all get on as a big family ive always said
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13-09-2007, 02:37 PM | #3 | ||
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For foreign people, when we say "England" it's for everything (Ireland, Scotland and Wales) ther eis nothing wrong for us but it's understandable that some people are annoyed by that.
We are just confused about United-Kingdom and Great-Britain. |
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13-09-2007, 02:40 PM | #4 | ||
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13-09-2007, 02:42 PM | #5 | ||
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im glad you liked that Ross it is true though
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13-09-2007, 02:46 PM | #6 | |||
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What annoys me is when people say Ireland is part of the UK.
Nprthan Ireland is partof the UK but Republic of Ireland is not. |
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13-09-2007, 02:51 PM | #7 | ||
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Aaron it isnt we all have our own countries but when they say that were all together thats when we are the brittish isles
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13-09-2007, 03:19 PM | #8 | ||
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I don't see why it would bother Welsh people personally...
Unless you have a desperate desire for the entire world to be talking about Wales? If anyone is specifically interested in Wales, they'll refer to Wales. If they're referring to the entire UK as England then they're not specifically talking about Wales anyway, no matter if they say England/UK. You're a country, that's part of a united kingdom. So if anything, you get more mention than any other small countries around the world because whenever anyone mentions the United Kingdom, they're talking about Wales too. And for anyone who refers to the entire UK as "England" then indeed, they need to get their facts straight. But I suppose some people class England as the main country, mainly due to its size and advanced growth compared to that of Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland. But yea, you say it's "annoying" Though I really can't understand how you can sit and think "People keep referring to the UK as England, I wish my country got more mention...it's really getting on my nerves." What are we going to talk about to do with Wales anyway? no worldly matters or major concerns/interesting topics seem to be emerging from Wales from what ive noticed. Plus I doubt that many conversations come up that orientate around talking about the UK, and im sure not all of those conversations will have anyone saying the UK is "England" either. |
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13-09-2007, 03:46 PM | #9 | |||
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when i went to america last october i was walking in a shopping mall and thi9s woman asked me if i wanted to buy something... she asked where i was from i said Scotland and she said ' you speak english in scotland' i tell you i felt like snapping her neck... lol only kiddin
but anyway just to clarify the full name is THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHER IRELAND and that is what it says on my passport |
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13-09-2007, 03:48 PM | #10 | ||
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you are dead right too mate you tell them
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13-09-2007, 03:49 PM | #11 | ||
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13-09-2007, 03:54 PM | #12 | ||
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I detest it when people refer to the whole United Kingdom as England. Americans and Australians are the worst culprits for that.
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13-09-2007, 04:01 PM | #13 | ||
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From Wikipedia if anyone's interested: The British Isles consists of: Great Britain, Ireland and many smaller surrounding islands. Great Britain, sometimes simply Britain, is the largest of the British Isles and is more commonly used as a political term, and an alternative name for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are the constituent countries of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain means the countries of England, Wales and Scotland considered as a unit. The term Great Britain is often used (incorrectly) as synonymous with the UK. However, the UK and Great Britain are not equivalent since the UK is a state formed from the union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain is widely used as a political synonym for the United Kingdom. British Islands consists of the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. These are the states within the British Isles that have the British monarch as head of state. England is the largest and most populous constituent country[1][2] of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Its inhabitants account for more than 83% of the total population of the United Kingdom. So in short: 1. Great Britain/Britain is said in reference to the entire UK, as well as England. Britain is widely used as a political synonym for the United Kingdom..so people don't just have to refer to us as the "UK" 2. The UK is a state formed from the union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Which could contribute towards Wales being ignored more. 3. It's not surprising that people refer to the entire UK as England sometimes, when 83% of the UK population are living in England. 4. It's also not surprising that people may be confused what to call us if we are classed as Britain/Great Britain/United Kingdom all at once. |
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13-09-2007, 04:03 PM | #14 | ||
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i hate the united kingdom being split in 4 sections
and i hate it even more that Scotland are trying to leave no offence but if they weren't owned by england then they would be nothing |
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13-09-2007, 04:07 PM | #15 | ||
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We've fought many wars over the years with eachother, and even now we've all united there's still a lot of prejudice and insults thrown around between the Irish/Welsh/Scottish/English. So I daren't think what condition our countries would be in if we weren't a United Kingdom. But I understand what you're possibly saying, it'd be nicer if we weren't four sections but one whole country. |
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13-09-2007, 04:15 PM | #16 | ||
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and i totally agree 10000% to that aswell
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13-09-2007, 04:25 PM | #17 | |||
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For me its the opposite I always call all the Countries the UK
and forget that Wales and Co. are separate Countrys |
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13-09-2007, 04:47 PM | #18 | ||
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if i ever went to america and they said 'are you from great britain or UK'. i would say 'no england'
i would rather get rid of great britain and uk and be known as england and scotland be known as scotland - you know what i mean lol |
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13-09-2007, 05:15 PM | #19 | ||
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well ive always said that we should all stick together as best friends
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16-09-2007, 12:04 PM | #20 | |||
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I'm from Northern Ireland, and couldn't care less if NI was re-fered to England. I don't see whats so annoying about it?
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16-09-2007, 12:06 PM | #21 | |||
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can't nobody hold us down
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I couldn't care less. I'm from London which is probably what everyone outside the country associates the UK with. If I was from Scotland or Wales, then I probably would.
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16-09-2007, 12:11 PM | #22 | ||
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i find it realy annoying when people reffer to Ireland as a part of the UK because its not and "The British isles" doesent include Ireland either but people from america and other places seem to think it is...
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16-09-2007, 01:02 PM | #23 | ||
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But, scotland, wales and northen ireland dont like to be associated with england. So, thats probably why most people, including myself class The UK as England. Becuase to me it is, but i suppose it depends on who you talk to, Becuase tbh, Wales and scotland are 2 seperate countries. |
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16-09-2007, 03:20 PM | #24 | |||
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16-09-2007, 03:28 PM | #25 | |||
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anyway another annoying think is that when a english athlete for instance wins a medal or something. that person would be called english but if it were a scottish person like Andy Murry then he would be called brittish so forigners would think 'english' it winds me up... but all that aside it would be cool if we could all just get along |
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