[cujo-man]

I think Victor would have either won or came second. Jason would ahve obvisouly been evicted, so I think the final result would be this-

1. Nadia (still)
2. Victor
3. Dan
4. Shell

Another good question is, what would have happened had Michelle and Stuart had never gotten together. My best bet is Stuart would have won! Hes such a fool.

[Conzors]

i think victor would have come 4th
shell 3rd
dan 2nd
nadia win

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Conzors
i think victor would have come 4th
shell 3rd
dan 2nd
nadia win

Really?

There is no doubt about one thing though- Victor saved BB5 from imminent cancellation, which would have made him a more deserving winner.

Its funny how two of the floaters would have came in the middle (I love Shell by the way, mmmm . . . Shell ).

[babushka]

Originally posted by cujo-man

Really?

There is no doubt about one thing though- Victor saved BB5 from imminent cancellation, which would have made him a more deserving winner.

Its funny how two of the floaters would have came in the middle (I love Shell by the way, mmmm . . . Shell ).

Wtf? Victor's behaviour contributed to the show almost being pulled. If anyone saved that show it was Dan.

If Victor had survived to the final week then I think he would have come second, as Jason did. He would have had to get past being chained to Nadia in week 9 though.

[TIGHAMADAN]

Originally posted by cujo-man
I think Victor would have either won or came second. Jason would ahve obvisouly been evicted, so I think the final result would be this-

1. Nadia (still)
2. Victor
3. Dan
4. Shell

Another good question is, what would have happened had Michelle and Stuart had never gotten together. My best bet is Stuart would have won! Hes such a fool.

I don't agree Michelle made Stuart interesting.What did he do but preen in the shower,dress up and act like a child.Michelle was second favorite after bootcamp, Stuart brought her down not the other way round.She was funnier, wittier and way more complex than him.She was the fool, to get caught up in a relationship that ultimately got her evicted to dislike and scorn.She also ended up with that awful bunnyboiler tag which still troubles her today.Stuart is getting on with his life free from scorn and hassle.No one ever blamed him for anything.He would never have beaten Nadia Dan or even Shell.He did not have enough gas in the tank for that.Plus what did he go through In BB5 was he locked in a bedsit without light ,fresh air or proper food for 5 days.Did he have to do the horrible bootcamp task, was he chained to some one who terrified him.Was he nommed for eviction a few times.No he sailed through. In fact he should have gone before Victor who was a better HM.As for Victor winning after his behavior on fight night he should have been expelled from the house with Emma as should Jason.Aggressive people should not win BB.Nadia was a worthy winner and Michelle should have come second, in the BB funniest bits every year 80% of them contain Michelle the words she used like ladygarden are still used today .She was brilliant. she played it for laughs, threw herself in to the experience and for better or worse she was totally herself. I make no bones about it,I don't care what anyone else thinks, I loved her and still do and am a total fan.As Hm,s go she was unique and brilliantly entertaining.Stu did not even have a minute speck of her charisma or entertainment value.He was eye candy for the teeny bops and hormonal ladies with the assumed personality of a mute mouse.He might have won a BB like this years, but not a BB full of strong characters like BB5

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by TIGHAMADAN
I don't agree Michelle made Stuart interesting.What did he do but preen in the shower,dress up and act like a child.Michelle was second favorite after bootcamp, Stuart brought her down not the other way round.She was funnier, wittier and way more complex than him.She was the fool, to get caught up in a relationship that ultimately got her evicted to dislike and scorn.She also ended up with that awful bunnyboiler tag which still troubles her today.Stuart is getting on with his life free from scorn and hassle.No one ever blamed him for anything.He would never have beaten Nadia Dan or even Shell.He did not have enough gas in the tank for that.Plus what did he go through In BB5 was he locked in a bedsit without light ,fresh air or proper food for 5 days.Did he have to do the horrible bootcamp task, was he chained to some one who terrified him.Was he nommed for eviction a few times.No he sailed through. In fact he should have gone before Victor who was a better HM.As for Victor winning after his behavior on fight night he should have been expelled from the house with Emma as should Jason.Aggressive people should not win BB.Nadia was a worthy winner and Michelle should have come second, in the BB funniest bits every year 80% of them contain Michelle the words she used like ladygarden are still used today .She was brilliant. she played it for laughs, threw herself in to the experience and for better or worse she was totally herself. I make no bones about it,I don't care what anyone else thinks, I loved her and still do and am a total fan.As Hm,s go she was unique and brilliantly entertaining.Stu did not even have a minute speck of her charisma or entertainment value.He was eye candy for the teeny bops and hormonal ladies with the assumed personality of a mute mouse.He might have won a BB like this years, but not a BB full of strong characters like BB5

Most people liked Stuart alot until he hooked up with Michelle and they realised he had no balls.

[Arneldo]

Victor or Jason would have came second, but only one was going to make it to final. Jason would have gone that week had it not been for Shell/Victor argument. Because of Victor's eviction, his fan's turned to Jason, hence why he got so far. Had Jason been evicted that week then Victor was sure to make it to final, and he would have probably got second as well but the vote would have been closer between Nadia and him.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by babushka
[Wtf? Victor's behaviour contributed to the show almost being pulled. If anyone saved that show it was Dan.

If Victor had survived to the final week then I think he would have come second, as Jason did. He would have had to get past being chained to Nadia in week 9 though.

No way. Victors behaviour probably saved the franchise. He was a dream HM. He was bright, opinionated and he liked to cause controvery. Without Victor there would probably not have been BB6, 7 and 8.

[Arneldo]

Victor was only Jason lap dog. He lost all sence of his personality half way through the series. Only at certain times did we see the real Victor, the Victor that wasnt being lead. Victor's "I'll make love to you" showed a nice, funny side to him. If he had been that Victor all along he could have won BB.

However, I still believe that Victor should have left when Emma did.

[XxShortyxX]

I didn't like Victor or Jason, both were nasty horrible, both of them were men b*tches! All they did was b*tch about people, if they had both been women they would of been out! How Jason came second I will never know, he was nasty. Women in BB get hated if they b*tch and slag other people off, but if the men do it they don't

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Victor was only Jason lap dog. He lost all sence of his personality half way through the series. Only at certain times did we see the real Victor, the Victor that wasnt being lead. Victor's "I'll make love to you" showed a nice, funny side to him. If he had been that Victor all along he could have won BB.

However, I still believe that Victor should have left when Emma did.

I don't agree. The Jungle Cat were Victor and Jason equally with Ahmed being the lap dog. I think Victor was trying to hard to be the bad boy and if anythingit was Victor who was leading at times. I remember Victor instigating an argument between Jason and Nadia. I still laugh at that.

Regarding Emma - I think you're probably right but I can undestand why she was the only one given the boot. She went back into the house with the intention of causing an arguemtn in the end she almost caused a ruck bacause she didn't know when to stop.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I don't agree. The Jungle Cat were Victor and Jason equally with Ahmed being the lap dog. I think Victor was trying to hard to be the bad boy and if anythingit was Victor who was leading at times. I remember Victor instigating an argument between Jason and Nadia. I still laugh at that.

Regarding Emma - I think you're probably right but I can undestand why she was the only one given the boot. She went back into the house with the intention of causing an arguemtn in the end she almost caused a ruck bacause she didn't know when to stop.

At first Ahmed was the lapdog, but he didn't do much. It always went Jason -> Victor -> Ahmed then Stuart somewhere in the middle. Actually, I think Stuart was a bit of a lapdog for the jungle Cats. He wanted to be a member but he got along with Nadia, Dan etc. as well. In week 8 Stu, Jay & Vic all nominated the same people. I think Vic sometimes tried to take a lead, and did start some arguments between Nad & Jay (when Nad called Jay a bastard) but Jay was soon back in control. Jay I think as also partially responsible for vic's eviction. Jason could have stopped Vic but the week Jay was up he knew what he was doing when he stopped bitching and tried to fade into the background and allow Vic to run the show.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Arneldo

Jay I think as also partially responsible for vic's eviction. Jason could have stopped Vic but the week Jay was up he knew what he was doing when he stopped bitching and tried to fade into the background and allow Vic to run the show.

I agree. Jay definitely knew he had to be the nice guy that week.

I think Victor was the best HM in BB5 for the reasons I stated earlier. He did try too hard to stir things up at times but that added to his personality in the house.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : GiRTh

I agree. Jay definitely knew he had to be the nice guy that week.

I think Victor was the best HM in BB5 for the reasons I stated earlier. He did try too hard to stir things up at times but that added to his personality in the house.

I agree with both of you. That was a risky move but the public didn't see what really happened and evicted Victor. I think that one of them had to go that week, that was quite obvious.

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

Jason would have definitely gone that week, but I think Victor could have been evicted the following week, since he was more unpopular than Michelle. So the final would have gone like this:

1. Nadia
2. Dan
3. Michelle
4. Shell
5. Stuart

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*
Jason would have definitely gone that week, but I think Victor could have been evicted the following week, since he was more unpopular than Michelle. So the final would have gone like this:

1. Nadia
2. Dan
3. Michelle
4. Shell
5. Stuart

I doubt it. Michelle was going to get a bad edit that week anyway, as producers wanted a Lip Gloss Bitch B Jungle Cat final. Michelle was going to go that week, without a doubt.

[Captain.Remy]

I do agree with Arneldo, the producers wanted a final 2 with a member of both clans. So they had to get rided of Victor and Michelle before the finale. Out of 4 finalists, 2 were neutral and 2 from both clans.

[CassetteFinger]

Originally posted by cujo-man
I think Victor would have either won or came second. Jason would ahve obvisouly been evicted, so I think the final result would be this-

1. Nadia (still)
2. Victor
3. Dan
4. Shell

Another good question is, what would have happened had Michelle and Stuart had never gotten together. My best bet is Stuart would have won! Hes such a fool.

Yeah either dan or victor would of came second and if stu and michelle never got together i think michelle would have came 2nd to nadia i swear cause she was favorite to win around when she had that argument with armed stuard would never have won he was like shell wouldent notice if he was there or not.