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Old 28-10-2007, 04:46 PM #1
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Default Rhydian LEAVES... UPDATE his back.

After Rhydian watched the show, and how they portrayed him and betrayed him in the editing. He did not want to be any part of the show, and failed to turn up at the finalists mansion last night.

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He was bribed to return, and told he will not be edited during the live show, and can win over the public with his own sob stories.

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Old 28-10-2007, 04:48 PM #2
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Pathetic man. His acting like a baby and not a grown man and throwing his toys out of his pram.
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Oh god, I can see him winning from getting the symphony vote here, I hope not, I can't stand him! He is so sickly, good singer he may be, but he just isn't like able.
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Oh Gosh thats so done for Sympathy, .
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Old 28-10-2007, 05:37 PM #5
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Umm, what's the source of this story? It looks like that site wrote it.
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I thought this happened a few weeks back?
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I thought this happened a few weeks back?
That's what I thought.

It makes no sense now, he's only getting positive feedback .
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I'm confused. Based on what I've seen of Rhydian, he doesn't seem the type to do that. Sure he's called a drama queen, but I think that's more because of his weirdness and eccentric persona, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't know why he'd leave for sympathy, because it's not like it'd do him any good; instead, it'd jeopardise his chance of living his dream... despite any phone calls he may be getting from Andrew Lloyd Webber etc.

This week he did well anyway, IMO. Of course it was weird, but his performance was good. And I think Dannii would be panicking if Rhydian made any rash decisions, as he's her only act in my view who can go pretty far.
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I think that story is made up, it doesn't appear anywhere else. I haven't been watching all of X Factor so far but from what I've seen Rhydian is the only one with the X Factor in the truest sense of the term.
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Idiot. Get him out of there, everytime I see him I wanna punch the tv screen.
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I think that story is made up, it doesn't appear anywhere else. I haven't been watching all of X Factor so far but from what I've seen Rhydian is the only one with the X Factor in the truest sense of the term.
I do agree, he's one of the best contestant this year, he has such an amazing voice. He looks weird but he's deffo a good singer.
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Rhydian is the only one with the X Factor in the truest sense of the term.
I agree he has got the X Factor but he is in the wrong show.

If it was the X Factor was does Opera then he would make a worthy winner, but it is not and his sort of style of singing really isn't suited to the format of the show. For that reason alone he really shouldn't win this years show unless he can prove himself to be more than an opera singer trying to do pop.
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I Really cant stand him.

hes a 1 trick pony ( i think thats the right expression)

he turns all typed into his own operah thingie me mob.
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Rhydian is the only one with the X Factor in the truest sense of the term.
I agree he has got the X Factor but he is in the wrong show.

If it was the X Factor was does Opera then he would make a worthy winner, but it is not and his sort of style of singing really isn't suited to the format of the show. For that reason alone he really shouldn't win this years show unless he can prove himself to be more than an opera singer trying to do pop.
I think that having an opera singer as winner would be a good thing, it changes. He will go very far. He has something different, it's like he isn't in the group.
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I don't think he's trying to do pop, personally...

The thing with Rhydian is that he sings what he is comfortable with and shows that he has a powerful voice... TXF shouldn't have a particular song bracket. If Same Difference can sing something from HSM, then Rhydian's entitled to do a Phantom of the Opera.

From his voice he has shown that he is definitely capable. Conzors - I don't think the song Rhydian sang last week was opera, but perhaps because of his strong, powerful voice you could liken the sound to it. I don't think that should be held against him though. The fact that he is unique also makes him more appealing to some. I think he is extremely weird to be honest, but I don't hold that against him as I know he has talent... unique talent as well.
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He shouldn't sing pop. His voice is too intense and strong. Imagine him singing 'born to be alive", that's not possible. I think that an artist should stay in his comfort zone, people must accept and he shouldn't change.
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He can sing, but I still say Niki is a better singer then him, because she can sing anything, where all he sings is Opera, which I don't like anyway lol
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I don't think he's trying to do pop, personally...

The thing with Rhydian is that he sings what he is comfortable with and shows that he has a powerful voice... TXF shouldn't have a particular song bracket. If Same Difference can sing something from HSM, then Rhydian's entitled to do a Phantom of the Opera.

From his voice he has shown that he is definitely capable. Conzors - I don't think the song Rhydian sang last week was opera, but perhaps because of his strong, powerful voice you could liken the sound to it. I don't think that should be held against him though. The fact that he is unique also makes him more appealing to some. I think he is extremely weird to be honest, but I don't hold that against him as I know he has talent... unique talent as well.
I agree he is very talented and he is an amazing singer and performer. He has it in him to be one of the best, if not the best performers in Musical Theatre for years to come.

If he is an X Factor winner is clearly debatable.

He is not going to transform the world of pop because his style is not in and it is unlikely to be in. His style is distinctly classical. Yes he will get a fan base but it's not going to huge. He isn't going to be the greatest pop star the world has every seen.

What's more if he doesn't become the greatest pop star the world has ever seen he will get bored and do something else. He won't stick at it. There must be a reason he is doing the X Factor and if it wasn't to show he could sing other stuff why is he doing it?
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The story looks a bit dodgy anyway, but even if it is true I wouldn't blame the guy, they edited him really badly during the audition shows, since the live shows where they can't edit him you can tell he's a decent chap, who is grateful and appreciative.

The cocky one is Emily, going to her head somewhat I think.

And the real 'creepy' ones are Same Difference...brother and sister right?
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I agree he is very talented and he is an amazing singer and performer. He has it in him to be one of the best, if not the best performers in Musical Theatre for years to come.

If he is an X Factor winner is clearly debatable.

He is not going to transform the world of pop because his style is not in and it is unlikely to be in. His style is distinctly classical. Yes he will get a fan base but it's not going to huge. He isn't going to be the greatest pop star the world has every seen.

What's more if he doesn't become the greatest pop star the world has ever seen he will get bored and do something else. He won't stick at it. There must be a reason he is doing the X Factor and if it wasn't to show he could sing other stuff why is he doing it?
I see what you're saying now.
He isn't the sort of person you'd expect to win the X Factor and hence get a record deal singing songs like you hear in the charts.

However, I do think that there should be more variety within the show, and you can equally have the X Factor even if you don't win it, if you're someone like Rhydian. Because I really think he does. Also, I think he's doing it simply to show his talent, in whatever form he chooses. That's the impression I got anyway. It's a shame that his chances of winning are partly decreased because of how he sings as well as everything else, but that's the way the show seems to go. I still think he could enjoy the benefits of winning a show like the X Factor - and justifiably so - but not necessarily become a 'pop star'.

I can't see it happening though, mainly because I am also a fan of Niki and Hope who seem to be appealing more to viewers. Niki also does have a better voice. That, however, just happens to be the case - if they weren't in the competition I'd be disappointed if Rhydian didn't win due to the reasons I stated above.
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I see what you're saying now.
He isn't the sort of person you'd expect to win the X Factor and hence get a record deal singing songs like you hear in the charts.

However, I do think that there should be more variety within the show, and you can equally have the X Factor even if you don't win it, if you're someone like Rhydian. Because I really think he does. Also, I think he's doing it simply to show his talent, in whatever form he chooses. That's the impression I got anyway. It's a shame that his chances of winning are partly decreased because of how he sings as well as everything else, but that's the way the show seems to go. I still think he could enjoy the benefits of winning a show like the X Factor - and justifiably so - but not necessarily become a 'pop star'.

I can't see it happening though, mainly because I am also a fan of Niki and Hope who seem to be appealing more to viewers. Niki also does have a better voice. That, however, just happens to be the case - if they weren't in the competition I'd be disappointed if Rhydian didn't win due to the reasons I stated above.
I agree totally including the bit about Niki and Hope.

However, I'm not sure that the X-Factor needs more variety. There are other shows like "Britain has got Talent" that do have that wider base in which he would fit perfectly. I think he did the X-Factor because it has a bigger audience base than some thing like "Britain has got Talent" and he feels that he is guaranteed more coverage in the press know he will reach more people.

I'm not a big Opera fan, although I have seen some opera's in the past and have been impressed by some of the performers, however one thing I know is that the opera community will be loving the exposer to a younger audience that his appearances in the X Factor is bring to their art form. It's got to be good for them.
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He can sing, but I still say Niki is a better singer then him, because she can sing anything, where all he sings is Opera, which I don't like anyway lol
It's still questionable as to whether Niki can sing anything, she's mainly done ballads which are well in her comfort zone.Perhaps something like an up-tempo rock song would be a challenge too far for her.

Rhydian sung ABBA in his audition and did a meatloaf song last week.He might only sing in a opera style but that's just his voice and he's adapted it to singing different genre's of song.
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It's still questionable as to whether Niki can sing anything, she's mainly done ballads which are well in her comfort zone.Perhaps something like an up-tempo rock song would be a challenge too far for her.

Rhydian sung ABBA in his audition and did a meatloaf song last week.He might only sing in a opera style but that's just his voice and he's adapted it to singing different genre's of song.
I guess we see what happens when they are both taken out of their comfort zones in the coming weeks. We have the big band sound next week and that should be a challenge for Rhydian, it a different style of music altogether from opera. It will be harder for him to adapt a song.

As for Niki there is sure to be a rock type theme at sometime which will challenge her in the coming weeks.

The thing about Niki I find rather incredible is her ability to convey emotion. The performance on Saturdays show was very moving. It made your spin tingle.
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I like Rhydian he has the best male voice there FACT.
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I like Rhydian he has the best male voice there FACT.
But does he have the best singing style?
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