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dupin · 30-10-2007, 05:07 PM

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If she threatens people with knives, even if it's in jest, we shouldn't "respect" her at all. That's a sick sense of humour. My cousin was stabbed to death in some silly gang-related thingymabob, and knives aren't a laughing matter.

I totally understand where your coming from Shaun, and when knives and weapons become involved it turns serious, but what I'm trying to say here is that some people are blatantly disliking her just because of her personal life, and that to me is unfair.

That's ridiculous, of course we're allowed to dislike her because of her personal life. People seem to dislike Rhydian for his confidence, which is something personal that is not his singing, so are you saying that that too is unacceptable?

MarkWaldorf · 30-10-2007, 05:08 PM

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It happened in 2005 aswell. Im sure after stuff that Emily herself has been through seh has regretted what seh did, which doesnt make it right but still

Which would have made her 12/13. For someone that young to be in the presence of a knife, let alone threatening someone is a disturbing thought.

dupin · 30-10-2007, 05:09 PM

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OMG! I'm not saying 'respect her' all I'm saying is personally I think we should respect her decision if she wants to be a chav or whatever, and the end of day, it's up to her what she does.

Some things don't deserve to be respected. Should we all go and respect Rose West just because, at the end of the day, it's up to her what she does?

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:10 PM

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If she threatens people with knives, even if it's in jest, we shouldn't "respect" her at all. That's a sick sense of humour. My cousin was stabbed to death in some silly gang-related thingymabob, and knives aren't a laughing matter.

I totally understand where your coming from Shaun, and when knives and weapons become involved it turns serious, but what I'm trying to say here is that some people are blatantly disliking her just because of her personal life, and that to me is unfair.

That's ridiculous, of course we're allowed to dislike her because of her personal life. People seem to dislike Rhydian for his confidence, which is something personal that is not his singing, so are you saying that that too is unacceptable?

Well for me, I don't like that. I think she should be judged on her singing voice, not what she does in her own time. And this thread's about Emily, not Rhydian.

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:11 PM

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OMG! I'm not saying 'respect her' all I'm saying is personally I think we should respect her decision if she wants to be a chav or whatever, and the end of day, it's up to her what she does.

Some things don't deserve to be respected. Should we all go and respect Rose West just because, at the end of the day, it's up to her what she does?

So basically your bringing the fact that she's a chav into your dislike of her?

dupin · 30-10-2007, 05:11 PM

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If she threatens people with knives, even if it's in jest, we shouldn't "respect" her at all. That's a sick sense of humour. My cousin was stabbed to death in some silly gang-related thingymabob, and knives aren't a laughing matter.

I totally understand where your coming from Shaun, and when knives and weapons become involved it turns serious, but what I'm trying to say here is that some people are blatantly disliking her just because of her personal life, and that to me is unfair.

That's ridiculous, of course we're allowed to dislike her because of her personal life. People seem to dislike Rhydian for his confidence, which is something personal that is not his singing, so are you saying that that too is unacceptable?

Well for me, I don't like that. I think she should be judged on her singing voice, not what she does in her own time. And this thread's about Emily, not Rhydian.

But the attitude is applicable to Rhydian; you're claiming that one form of this "people making opinions not based on voice" thing is unacceptable, yet apparently condoning another.

And her singing voice is awful anyway, which most people have already judged her on in such a way.

And she's not just a chav; I have friends who are chavs and nice people. She's in an actual London gang and brandishes a knife. That's a valid enough reason to dislike someone, I think.

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:13 PM

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If she threatens people with knives, even if it's in jest, we shouldn't "respect" her at all. That's a sick sense of humour. My cousin was stabbed to death in some silly gang-related thingymabob, and knives aren't a laughing matter.

I totally understand where your coming from Shaun, and when knives and weapons become involved it turns serious, but what I'm trying to say here is that some people are blatantly disliking her just because of her personal life, and that to me is unfair.

That's ridiculous, of course we're allowed to dislike her because of her personal life. People seem to dislike Rhydian for his confidence, which is something personal that is not his singing, so are you saying that that too is unacceptable?

Well for me, I don't like that. I think she should be judged on her singing voice, not what she does in her own time. And this thread's about Emily, not Rhydian.

But the attitude is applicable to Rhydian; you're claiming that one form of this "people making opinions not based on voice" thing is unacceptable, yet apparently condoning another.

And her singing voice is awful anyway, which most people have already judged her on in such a way.

Well, apparently according to you her singing voice is awful. But not to me, I actually really like her voice. Your opinion doesn't rule on top of others, y'know.

Billy · 30-10-2007, 05:13 PM

Her singing voice is quite clearly not awful. Do you really think shed by in the final 3 girls under 24 in britain if her voice was awful

dupin · 30-10-2007, 05:14 PM

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Her singing voice is quite clearly not awful. Do you really think shed by in the final 3 girls under 24 in britain if her voice was awful

Her audition was good, but they kept making excuses for her because she nearly died, so it would seem. Her voice is average at best, and both her live performences have been dreadful.

Billy · 30-10-2007, 05:16 PM

Oh funny that is. I dont remember judges saying: but its because she nearly died" do youu? And also obviously her voice must not be awful, if youve just said yourself her audition was good

MarkWaldorf · 30-10-2007, 05:16 PM

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Her singing voice is quite clearly not awful. Do you really think shed by in the final 3 girls under 24 in britain if her voice was awful

Her audition was good, but they kept making excuses for her because she nearly died, so it would seem. Her voice is average at best, and both her live performences have been dreadful.

I agree, her audition was good, she messed up boot camp, and did OK during the judges houses. They only made excuses because they knew what was she like at her audition. She hasn't improved, and there were better contestants that missed out on the live shows. Shame really.

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:17 PM

Yeah. George you did say her voice was awful, but just then you said her audition was good.

MarkWaldorf · 30-10-2007, 05:18 PM

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Yeah. George you did say her voice was awful, but just then you said her audition was good.

Well it's most likely because she sung a ballad for her audition, and since then she hasn't done anything near that.

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:18 PM

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Her singing voice is quite clearly not awful. Do you really think shed by in the final 3 girls under 24 in britain if her voice was awful

Her audition was good, but they kept making excuses for her because she nearly died, so it would seem. Her voice is average at best, and both her live performences have been dreadful.

I agree, her audition was good, she messed up boot camp, and did OK during the judges houses. They only made excuses because they knew what was she like at her audition. She hasn't improved, and there were better contestants that missed out on the live shows. Shame really.

Hm, well actually the fact that she got through, proves she has something going for her.

dupin · 30-10-2007, 05:19 PM

Her voice has been awful ever since the audition....

Anyway, this should be about her thug gang more than her voice....

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:19 PM

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Yeah. George you did say her voice was awful, but just then you said her audition was good.

Well it's most likely because she sung a ballad for her audition, and since then she hasn't done anything near that.

You wait till she has a song suited for her voice. That's when the game will be raised.

MarkWaldorf · 30-10-2007, 05:20 PM

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Yeah. George you did say her voice was awful, but just then you said her audition was good.

Well it's most likely because she sung a ballad for her audition, and since then she hasn't done anything near that.

You wait till she has a song suited for her voice. That's when the game will be raised.

Lmfao. OK I'll wait, but I have a feeling I wont have to wait long, she's gone this week.

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:20 PM

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Her voice has been awful ever since the audition....

Anyway, this should be about her thug gang more than her voice....

You can't really say that. According to you, it has been, but to me and others it hasn't.

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:22 PM

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Yeah. George you did say her voice was awful, but just then you said her audition was good.

Well it's most likely because she sung a ballad for her audition, and since then she hasn't done anything near that.

You wait till she has a song suited for her voice. That's when the game will be raised.

Lmfao. OK I'll wait, but I have a feeling I wont have to wait long, she's gone this week.

I wouldn't be too sure at that. Look at Alisha, she's been in the bottom two twice now, there's a high chance she could go over Emily.

Billy · 30-10-2007, 05:23 PM

LMAO I so hope Emily stays now, just to sayy "thought she was gonee". Think I will continuce supporting her actuallyy

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:24 PM

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LMAO I so hope Emily stays now, just to sayy "thought she was gonee". Think I will continuce supporting her actuallyy

Same here. Hallelugah to Emily!

dupin · 30-10-2007, 05:32 PM

Would I be wrong in guessing that you've been threatened, and Emily's gang are going to get you if you dont vote for her?

Callum · 30-10-2007, 05:34 PM

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Would I be wrong in guessing that you've been threatened, and Emily's gang are going to get you if you dont vote for her?

How rude! I like Emily on the basis of singing, and I can vote for her as much as I like. Problem?

dupin · 30-10-2007, 05:39 PM

No, it's just I know that you and Billy would have exactly the same attitude as me if you'd found out someone that wasn't your favourite turned out to be a knife-brandishing thug *shrug*

Billy · 30-10-2007, 05:40 PM

No I certainly would not. I do not respect Emily for what she did, and I tihnk it was extremely stupid but theres no way Im gunna stop supporting her because of this.

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