[supernoodles!]

Well....do you?

[XxShortyxX]

No, I don't. I don't believe in something you can't see. But I respect people who do.

[Dr43%er]

No. Not one dot.

[Mark]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
I don't believe in something you can't see.

You can't see air can you


I don't believe in a god at all. I tend to keep my thoughts on the subject to a minimum as I usually end up insulting believers, and that's not my intention when I debate.

The whole (god) thing is ridiculous though

- Mark

[Dr43%er]

Liking your work there.

[Captain.Remy]

Yes I'm a catholic.
However, as I'm both russian and italian, my parents had a conflict when I was born as my father is a orthodoxe and my mother is a catholic. Finally they have decided to make me a catholic.

[Dr43%er]

Don't you think you should have a say in it?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Dr43%er
Don't you think you should have a say in it?

No because my parents gave me what they thought it was better for me and I respect them. I trust in God, it helped me a lot. That's the traditions, it will happen for my wedding and stuff like that. Even if it's quite annoying for people I respect that and everything they gave me.

[Dr43%er]

I would still rather have my own say. Me and my sister were left to make up our own minds regardless of our parents thoughts. I have decided that there is to much hate in the world for there to be a god. My sister is a Muslim. I will respect her religious beliefs round hers, but then she must respect my beliefs if she is round mine. So if I want a bacon sandwich washed down with a beer whilst she is round, then I will. Like wise I will only eat Halal round hers.

[Sarah.]

Nope, I'm atheist.. don't believe in anything like that.

[SairBabi92]

I do 100%

[Spike]

No, I'm an atheist. I'm not going to waste my life believing in something which can't be proved.

[Ruth*Star]

Nope, I'm atheist, I used to believe in a god when i was little but now I'm older i just don't.

[Dr43%er]

"In Islam Allah isn't a God, and in Christianity Jesus isn't a God. Buddha wasn't a God either, in fact Buddhists don't even believe in a God, so you may want to check that. (??"

Where as Prince Philip and Norman Wisdom are revered as God's in some parts
of the world. I may have made up the bit about Norman Wisdom.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : flavaflav23
yes i believie in one true god and thank him for everytthing he has given me

I will pray for you leaving this forum definately (sorry I couldn't contain myself)

[Retroman]

Originally posted by Ellis
By the way supernoodles, your poll is rather inaccurate.

In Islam Allah isn't a God, and in Christianity Jesus isn't a God. Buddha wasn't a God either, in fact Buddhists don't even believe in a God, so you may want to check that. (??)

I second that...
Sorry but this topic may have been better off without a poll, or by listing the religions rather than the "gods/beings who are worshipped" But I suppose we all understand the poll options none the less, so no harm done.

Anyhow, no I don't believe in god.

I will say why, because im hoping believers reading this will find it in themselves to accept the fact that not everybody on the planet has to share their views, and that im not condeming religion, just explaining my opinion on it.

- For one, there is too much conveniance concerning god.

Everything regarding god is invisible and passed off with the excuse of it being "magical" or "a mysterious force"

You can't just whack a "special, unexplainable and mysterious" sticker on everything and expect everyone to accept it. It wouldn't work if I said there's an invisible gremlin living in my garden, and it shouldn't work elsewhere either. The funny thing is some people may think that comparison is ridiculous, yet if you actually look at it, it really isn't.

Then moving on to the ten commandments, several rules telling us how to live. All of these rules are allowed to be broken, considering you repent your sins and are truly sorry.

So everyone can lead their lives breaking any of those rules, and know it'll be ok considering they feel guilty afterwards.

Which seems slightly odd, since one of the rules is god laying down a firm law that YOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP ANY OTHER GOD BUT ME! which sounds a little bossy, strict and selfish wouldn't you agree? not the words of someone who forgives all who are sorry.

But again, all conveniant.

- Secondly would be a simple observation on my part. The fact that as far as im concerned, every single believer whether aware or unaware, conciously or subconciously, has a reason for believing in god.

By this I mean that whether down to a bad life, bad situation, lack of love, missing dead loved one's, fear of death etc etc, I think pretty much all religious people gain some kind of love/peace of mind that makes them feel better about their insecurites, which is the main reason I think they turn to a god who offers unconditional love.

Ive noticed a lot of very strict christians, who follow the religion more so than some, often tend to be people with a lot of strife and problems, whether past or present.

It all seems a little selfish to me, but I respect the fact it brings a little happiness into people's lives/makes their lives better, even if I do think it's false.

- Thirdly, are some random points such as heaven and hell being thought of before we were aware of the earths core/molten lava and space. If we had more technology back then and knew what was in the sky, would the idea of heaven and hell ever have formed?

Not to mention that heaven decided to appropriately change from being in the clouds, to being "invisible and on another plane" as soon as we discovered space. Which is a little odd to say the least, since it was originally on our plane, and now on another? all because we now know what is beyond the clouds.

Religion just can't change itself to adjust everytime someone proves it wrong, and again slap a "magical" sticker onto it to explain why it's changed.

Also, religion is taught to children at an age where they are too young to know any better. A majority of them will believe what they're told and end up believing it for the rest of their lives...whereas if they were left to learn about religion when they were older, I think we'd have far less christians.

Another thing I think plays a role is the large amount of religous buildings across the world, and the fact it's so established in todays society, means people give the idea of religion more credit than if it wasn't taking the form of buildings/R.E lessons/going to church with school etc.

- And lastly, there's the endless scientific reasons to tell us why heaven, hell, god and the afterlife are all impossible.

Every single thing in existence is explained by science, emphasis on existance.

Again, religion only survives in people's minds due to the fact that they've invented a being that is capable of ANYTHING and has power beyond belief.

So this again makes it incredibly conveniant, because if he wants to make everything invisible, unexplainable and so on...he can do so freely.

But even god would fall to the laws of science, and there'd be a way of measuring his power and what it is that gives him that power. And I seriously doubt there's anything out there capable of allowing such amazing things to happen.

There's also the fact that god was pretty much in our faces 2000 years ago, and decided to get virgins pregnant, set bushes on fire, give people powers, talk to people, put his son on this earth with magical healing powers, revive Jesus and strike down a temple.

And what now? did he get bored? is he having a little sleep?

And please nobody pass me off with the excuse that the world has become so bad that god doesn't wish to address us personally anymore...because the world was much worse back then believe it or not. Plus if he was who he claims to be, he'd be here more than ever in a time of need. Not turn his back when things look grim.

All of the above is mainly aimed towards christianity obviously and perhaps others, as I don't know enough about Buddhism to make fair comments but at least their religion is more plausible and a little more practical.

[Arneldo]

I want to but, no I don't. When I was younger I was religious but after my grandmother died I feel I lost my faith. Now I'm older and wiser I just can't grasp the idea of one man, creator, being creating this universe. i believe God is someone (something) that people want to believe in for whatever reason.

I cant, and refuse, to believe that God created all we see today. I believe that thier was no beginning. The universe has always been and always will.

[Jackie]

No i don't beleive in god.

[Sunny_01]

I choose to believe that there is something. I am not sure which "god" is the right one. I was christened and brought up Roman Catholic but am very much opposed to many of the teaching of the church. I dont think any god would dictate to us in the way the church does. I dont know why I believe I just think I feel safer in the world having something to pray to.

[MarkWaldorf]

Yes, I believe God has plans for all of us.

(Any God)

[dupin]

Definatley not, and I think Retroman's post was really a great one, it captivated everything I think in terms of religion. I think it's all a bit silly really...

[Ann]

Yes I Do As I'm Cathalic

[Bells]

According to other religious documents, God stated that He would send the last messenger to Earth around 1,500 years back, which is a plausible explanation if you choose to believe it. As a result, it can’t be said that he has turned our backs on us simply because he isn’t addressing a person directly. I don’t believe a lot of things connected with God in Christianity (for example); I just accept the fact that there is a God, who in turn created the entire universe. Not in every religious document is he represented as a dictator or unforgiving; he simply states that his people should choose to believe in nobody but him, which in my opinion isn’t asking for much. To be honest, whilst some people in this thread will probably find it shocking how someone can believe in God, I find it equally if not more shocking how someone cannot. But I would never impose my views upon someone else, because everything is out there for anyone who is willing to know.

Firstly, I don’t follow a particular ‘religion’ – I don’t believe in religions because I feel it creates divisions amongst people, which shouldn’t be how things work. In terms of God, I think science if anything should increase a person’s faith, i.e. how such complex structures such as the human body have been created. Furthermore, how everything seems to work out on a grand scale, e.g. the structure of an atom compared with the structure of the solar system, and then other galaxies, and ultimately the universe itself which is such a wondrous thing to speculate, of which Earth is therefore minute. My cousin is a Muslim, and he showed me how in the Koran, scientific processes such as a child in its mother’s womb amongst other examples are described within it, which I found fascinating because no way could the people of back then known such detail about it. It is possible to believe in Allah/God and follow a certain way of life; however, once again, I do not agree with how within Islam also, divisions have been created. Going back to believing in God, I think it’s a bit of a generalisation for anyone to think or suggest that people who believe in God fear death, are insecure or lacking something. There is no need to fear death if you are comfortable within yourself and how you live your life. Furthermore, many happy families as well as happy people in general choose to believe in God, perhaps simply because they think it makes sense, or makes them better people.

In terms of Heaven/Hell, perhaps what was described about them was metaphorical, rather than taking the literal meaning. When the holy books were published, the interpretation of the meaning for them would have been different... whereas if we were to receive a holy book now, it would probably contain a more complex example of where Heaven/Hell is. To me, it just gives the impression that we could not understand where it is at present because as I mentioned before, the universe is a wondrous thing to speculate, but can be given a similar example. But, the idea of it makes sense to me. Different people live their lives in different ways; some choose to be good, and some bad. We could question why in fact there is right and wrong, because science alone cannot explain it. Humans have been given the chance to have free will, in which they can accept good/bad ways of life, unlike any other creature; evolution does not explain why it has come about. Going back to Heaven/Hell, if there is good and bad/right and wrong, then it would make sense for there to be an ultimate right and an ultimate wrong.

[Scarlett.]

I belive in the Christian god, but I dont go by all the rules

and the truth is there is no Devil, our RE teacher even told us there wasnt

[Stu]

Originally posted by Chewy
and the truth is there is no Devil, our RE teacher even told us there wasnt

Well bye god it must be true then!