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Old 03-12-2007, 06:45 AM #1
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DANNII Minogue stormed out of the X Factor studio in tears after a raging row with Louis Walsh.

The judges clashed as cheeky Louis blasted Dannii for saying his finalist Niki Evans had sung out of tune.

Dannii, 36, told the hopeful: “I watched the tape from last week and you were completely out of tune.”

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But raging Irishman Louis, 55, hit back live on air by taking a pop at the Aussie star’s own voice, saying: “Dannii, singing out of tune? Ho ho!”

And backstage, tensions rose as Dannii sobbed over Louis’ jibes about her career.

She failed to return following an ad break, leaving Sharon Osbourne to fill her absence by clambering on to Simon Cowell’s lap.

A source said: “Louis keeps joking about Dannii’s singing talents and it’s really getting to her.”

The ITV1 hit scooped 10.5 million viewers - the best ratings of the live shows so far.
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she will be back!

she has 2 acts in the final!

and rhydian is fave to WIN she wont leave
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she is doing it because she wants the attention and looks like she wants to be like sharon
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She did it because Louis was a cheap shot. She is a judge and is there on her own merits the same as the other judges. She nor any of the judges should be personally attacking each other on national TV, it shows a lack of class.
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He was a bit nasty. True, but nasty.

Then again, she has been very picky since the beginning...which isn't something to be frowned at of course, but perhaps she could have mentioned last week's performance in private.
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Dannii's had loads of hit records in the dance scene though - if Louis is going to criticise that then he can hardly give Rhydian praise each week because he's not singing pop songs either.

Anyway, I still think Louis is an ersehole. I wish he'd shut up.
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It really annoys me when people slag off Dannii Minogue for not having a successful career but what people forget is that she has had 9 singles in the top 10 with 4 or 5 just missing out. She isn't very successful in the mainstream charts when you look at her whole discography but she has released 13 singles into the dance charts and she has got a number 1 with every single one of them.

It could be argued that Dannii is actually more successful than Louis, as most of his bands have charted really badly. The only ones that have gone on years later are Boyzone and Westlife. Heres a full list of Louis' bands

* Kerri Ann - Now defunct
* Bellefire - Now defunct
* Boyzone - Reunited 16/11/2007 for a tour
* The Carter Twins - Now defunct
* G4 - Now Defunct
* Six - Now defunct
* Girls Aloud - No longer managed by Walsh
* Ronan Keating - No longer managed by Walsh
* Samantha Mumba - No longer managed by Walsh
* Eton Road - No longer managed by Walsh.
* Shayne Ward
* Westlife
* Cilla Black

I doubt Louis Walsh will be back for next year for his pure cockiness and arrogance towards both Dannii and Simon. He needs to grow up. If Dannii was that bad, then she wouldn't have the favourite to win who has undergone a massive turnaround in public opinion and the dark horse of the series.
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It really annoys me when people slag off Dannii Minogue for not having a successful career but what people forget is that she has had 9 singles in the top 10 with 4 or 5 just missing out. She isn't very successful in the mainstream charts when you look at her whole discography but she has released 13 singles into the dance charts and she has got a number 1 with every single one of them.

It could be argued that Dannii is actually more successful than Louis, as most of his bands have charted really badly. The only ones that have gone on years later are Boyzone and Westlife. Heres a full list of Louis' bands

* Kerri Ann - Now defunct
* Bellefire - Now defunct
* Boyzone - Reunited 16/11/2007 for a tour
* The Carter Twins - Now defunct
* G4 - Now Defunct
* Six - Now defunct
* Girls Aloud - No longer managed by Walsh
* Ronan Keating - No longer managed by Walsh
* Samantha Mumba - No longer managed by Walsh
* Eton Road - No longer managed by Walsh.
* Shayne Ward
* Westlife
* Cilla Black

I doubt Louis Walsh will be back for next year for his pure cockiness and arrogance towards both Dannii and Simon. He needs to grow up. If Dannii was that bad, then she wouldn't have the favourite to win who has undergone a massive turnaround in public opinion and the dark horse of the series.

Case closed!


Also, she's the only judge with two acts still in it, and looking at the bookies odds, they're favourites for first and second place.

Ahem.
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Awww poor Dannii, that was very low of Louis to say, I luv Dannii's new song
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I'm not surprised Danni has done so well in the dance charts, she's a well known act and there's never too much mainstream competition for her.

Were Eton Road even properly managed by Louis? They never released anything.

Most of the time the acts he has managed have all been fairly successful.There's always going to be failures but on the whole he's done pretty well.
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He is so horrible! He makes Simon Cowell look nice!
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Dannii's had loads of hit records in the dance scene though - if Louis is going to criticise that then he can hardly give Rhydian praise each week because he's not singing pop songs either.

Anyway, I still think Louis is an ersehole. I wish he'd shut up.
To be fair he can only judge Rhydian on his voice at the moment.

He's only really having a go at Danni's voice and how successful she has been in the top 40.
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Dannii's had loads of hit records in the dance scene though - if Louis is going to criticise that then he can hardly give Rhydian praise each week because he's not singing pop songs either.

Anyway, I still think Louis is an ersehole. I wish he'd shut up.
To be fair he can only judge Rhydian on his voice at the moment.

He's only really having a go at Danni's voice and how successful she has been in the top 40.
Yeah, but you see what I mean right? It's pointless and petty of him to make comments like that, I understand it's to hype up the show and they clearly don't mean these things, but it's still an idiotic thing to say on television, especially when the program isn't about Dannii Minogue's singing talents.
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It's not even relevant whether Dannii can sing or not. I can't sing for toffee but I know when someone is a terrible singer. I'm sure none of the other judges can sing but they can give critique on people's performances.
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I'm not surprised Danni has done so well in the dance charts, she's a well known act and there's never too much mainstream competition for her.

Were Eton Road even properly managed by Louis? They never released anything.

Most of the time the acts he has managed have all been fairly successful.There's always going to be failures but on the whole he's done pretty well.
He still takes credit for Girls Aloud, but they ditched Louis after about a month because they seen the crap manager that he was. Look at that list. There aren't many successes on there. I would say the only real success is Cilla Black as she is still in the public eye after god knows how long.
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Dannii's had loads of hit records in the dance scene though - if Louis is going to criticise that then he can hardly give Rhydian praise each week because he's not singing pop songs either.

Anyway, I still think Louis is an ersehole. I wish he'd shut up.
To be fair he can only judge Rhydian on his voice at the moment.

He's only really having a go at Danni's voice and how successful she has been in the top 40.
Yeah, but you see what I mean right? It's pointless and petty of him to make comments like that, I understand it's to hype up the show and they clearly don't mean these things, but it's still an idiotic thing to say on television, especially when the program isn't about Dannii Minogue's singing talents.
Indeed.It's all rather petty of him to keep making digs at her when she's just a judge.
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I'm not surprised Danni has done so well in the dance charts, she's a well known act and there's never too much mainstream competition for her.

Were Eton Road even properly managed by Louis? They never released anything.

Most of the time the acts he has managed have all been fairly successful.There's always going to be failures but on the whole he's done pretty well.
He still takes credit for Girls Aloud, but they ditched Louis after about a month because they seen the c**p manager that he was. Look at that list. There aren't many successes on there. I would say the only real success is Cilla Black as she is still in the public eye after god knows how long.
How can you say that only Cilla Black is a real success?

Everything that Westlife release does well and that's about 7/8 years down the line.

Shayne Ward's doing well at the moment.His album went in at number 2 after outselling Kylie Minogue by over 10,000 copies plus having 2 successful singles off the album.

Boyzone,G4,Samantha Mumba,Six and Ronan were all successful whilst he managed them.Some might not be around now but he had success whilst managing them.29 number 1 singles for acts he has managed is a pretty good record by anyone's standards.

That only really leaves The Carter Twins,Bellefire and Kerri Ann.Two of them I've never even heard of.

You can look at some of the acts Simon has signed that have been failures, it just goes with the territory.
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I'm not surprised Danni has done so well in the dance charts, she's a well known act and there's never too much mainstream competition for her.

Were Eton Road even properly managed by Louis? They never released anything.

Most of the time the acts he has managed have all been fairly successful.There's always going to be failures but on the whole he's done pretty well.
He still takes credit for Girls Aloud, but they ditched Louis after about a month because they seen the c**p manager that he was. Look at that list. There aren't many successes on there. I would say the only real success is Cilla Black as she is still in the public eye after god knows how long.
How can you say that only Cilla Black is a real success?

Everything that Westlife release does well and that's about 7/8 years down the line.

Shayne Ward's doing well at the moment.His album went in at number 2 after outselling Kylie Minogue by over 10,000 copies plus having 2 successful singles off the album.

Boyzone,G4,Samantha Mumba,Six and Ronan were all successful whilst he managed them.Some might not be around now but he had success whilst managing them.29 number 1 singles for acts he has managed is a pretty good record by anyone's standards.

That only really leaves The Carter Twins,Bellefire and Kerri Ann.Two of them I've never even heard of.

You can look at some of the acts Simon has signed that have been failures, it just goes with the territory.
Westlife are a success, but not a long term success yet. Come back in 2042 and tell me if Westlife are still in the public eye.
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Not a long term success, Tom? They've had number 1 singles since the year 2000 - indeed they got the first Number#1 of the new Millenium.

That's 7 years, and they're still going...

Plus 2042 is 35 years away - name acts you can think of that were around 35 years ago
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God I hate Louis, He should take a look at some of His bands before making fun of other singers xx
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I'm not surprised Danni has done so well in the dance charts, she's a well known act and there's never too much mainstream competition for her.

Were Eton Road even properly managed by Louis? They never released anything.

Most of the time the acts he has managed have all been fairly successful.There's always going to be failures but on the whole he's done pretty well.
He still takes credit for Girls Aloud, but they ditched Louis after about a month because they seen the c**p manager that he was. Look at that list. There aren't many successes on there. I would say the only real success is Cilla Black as she is still in the public eye after god knows how long.
How can you say that only Cilla Black is a real success?

Everything that Westlife release does well and that's about 7/8 years down the line.

Shayne Ward's doing well at the moment.His album went in at number 2 after outselling Kylie Minogue by over 10,000 copies plus having 2 successful singles off the album.

Boyzone,G4,Samantha Mumba,Six and Ronan were all successful whilst he managed them.Some might not be around now but he had success whilst managing them.29 number 1 singles for acts he has managed is a pretty good record by anyone's standards.

That only really leaves The Carter Twins,Bellefire and Kerri Ann.Two of them I've never even heard of.

You can look at some of the acts Simon has signed that have been failures, it just goes with the territory.
Westlife are a success, but not a long term success yet. Come back in 2042 and tell me if Westlife are still in the public eye.
They probably wont be but then again Cilla's stayed around for her tv work rather than selling records for a long time.

The point is most of the acts that Louis has managed have done well in the charts, some may have only been over a short period but it's still good.
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I agrre with Sunny. Louis showed a lack of class with his little dig, but he shows lack of class all the time. He seems to want to argue with Simon over virtually everything and he often wants to tactically vote out the act that is the biggest threat to him. Look at his constant digs about Same Difference and who can forget him saving the Conway sisters over Maria Lawson a few years ago. The show would have so much more credibility if Simon finally got rid of him
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Hes got a cheek Dannii has had 9 top 10 singles on UKL charts and 2 top 10 albums and guess what, NONE were covers. Take a leafd out of her book for Westlife, Louis
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... and she doesn't mime
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