[*BleedingHearts.]

very two faced and bitchy together what you think ? x

[Verloren]

I don't think so. I think they just have an alternative sense of humour that amy and a lot of the other housemates don't seem to get but I think they get on well because they have that in common. I find Victor funny actually. Like his mum just said on big mouth, he is only winding his sister up, people just over-react. Everything on bb is blown out of proportion.

[*BleedingHearts.]

yeah but - which is better
emilia can you make me a cup of tea PLEASE ?
oi make me tea?

thats not how you treat family! x

[lovelyg]

So blooming what, they are the only entertainment in there, please don't vote out or it will be well boring x

[Verloren]

Originally posted by *BleedingHearts.
yeah but - which is better
emilia can you make me a cup of tea PLEASE ?
oi make me tea?

thats not how you treat family! x

Yeah it is! It's only a joke. He ended up making it in good humour anyway when kelly told him to. I don't think they were bitching either, just moaning (which they admitted) and there is a differance! I like people better if I think they are being honest and I think they are.

[*BleedingHearts.]

i have NEVER talked to my sisters like that its so disrepecting and humlitain for her and now her 'fave' is doing it

[Shaun]

I sometimes like Jeremy, but together I hate them.

[Nicky.]

There wicked

[Verloren]

Originally posted by *BleedingHearts.
i have NEVER talked to my sisters like that its so disrepecting and humlitain for her and now her 'fave' is doing it

Then you don't have that sense of humour but I can tell he is only saying it tongue in cheek as he is clearly very close to his sister. They wouldn't be able to perform that act with that amount of disapline if they didn't get on pretty well believe me!

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Verloren

Then you don't have that sense of humour but I can tell he is only saying it tongue in cheek as he is clearly very close to his sister. They wouldn't be able to perform that act with that amount of disapline if they didn't get on pretty well believe me!

I don't think anybody's doubting that they have a good relationship, and it's obviously vital in order for them to perform well, but I think that he's perhaps just dominating without her noticing it.

[Indierock&roll]

i love jeremy
i dont like victor though

[Verloren]

Originally posted by Shaun

I don't think anybody's doubting that they have a good relationship, and it's obviously vital in order for them to perform well, but I think that he's perhaps just dominating without her noticing it.

Yeah but it's like that with older brothers. Maybe he's a bit over protective.

It is funny how quickly people change their mind about people here, based on a few comments. I think it's fair to say, it's difficult to judge people based on watching them in bigbrother.

[Shaun]

I don't think it is like that with older brothers. I'd never boss my younger sister around like he does, Kelly Osbourne was clearly offended, and other housemates (8 to be precise ) also didn't like it, particularly Nathan.

[andybigbro]

I wouldnt say that they were bitchy

[Verloren]

Originally posted by Shaun
I don't think it is like that with older brothers. I'd never boss my younger sister around like he does, Kelly Osbourne was clearly offended, and other housemates (8 to be precise ) also didn't like it, particularly Nathan.

Yes but they have an unusual life that may be difficult for some people to understand. He may appear bossy but he is the one throwing her about on their circus act thing! It is probably a development of that. He just seems very disciplined and perhaps a bit highly strung. Hardly crimes of the century, some people need to calm down...

[Dan_]

Jeremy seems to be trying a bit too hard with his jokes to impress Victor in my view.He's okay on his own but he seems to change around Victor.

[Jackie]

I don't like victor at all and Jeremy better by himself.

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by Dan_
Jeremy seems to be trying a bit too hard with his jokes to impress Victor in my view.He's okay on his own but he seems to change around Victor.

I think a similar thing but with Victor...to me I think Victor is trying to be "one of the lads" which is why he winds up the girls and wants to build this kind of macho image around him. Being in the circus in a way makes him look like a bit of a girl...so he thinks acting "tough" will make him look more of a man. People have already suggested he talks like a girl plus the circus outfits and maybe make up kind of cast a gay/girl sterotype around him.

Jeremy I think wants to appeal cool/smooth more than anything so just goes along with whatever is happening...if its bashing the girls he will join in, if its flirting again he will join in.

I think both of these guys are very interesting characters which are very complex, at times they are nice guys then they can switch...I don't think they switch to actually be "mean" I think they are just trying to look cool. With Victor it is slightly different though because he has a protective side over a family member.

[Redmond]

I don't think the options are very fair.

Can't you have an option that says "Bitchy and Two-Faced But Love Them For It". Or "Bad Guys You Love To Hate". Because these guys are making the show at the minute.

[Redmond]

Oh and by the way guys, the producers quite conveniently left out of the Highlight Show last night the bit where in the morning Victor and Jeremy agreed to wind the girls up for a bit as a joke, they said they were going to pay them cheesy compliments and then see if they could get them to do stuff for them. So it was all just a joke but the edit made it seem like Victor is like that all the time. People buy into stuff far too easy.

[Verloren]

Originally posted by Redmond
Oh and by the way guys, the producers quite conveniently left out of the Highlight Show last night the bit where in the morning Victor and Jeremy agreed to wind the girls up for a bit as a joke, they said they were going to pay them cheesy compliments and then see if they could get them to do stuff for them. So it was all just a joke but the edit made it seem like Victor is like that all the time. People buy into stuff far too easy.

I could tell it was a joke straight away but like I said, some people take everything so seriously.

I also think it's how it's edited. Not much really happens in the house so they have to edit it in such a way that makes it look like they are always at each others throats when this is just not true.

Editing can make a big differance on how something or someone is portrayed.

[Kate..]

Hate victor
Don't mind jeremy at all

[no1bigbrofan]

bitchy

[Loukas]

Bitchy!

thats all i dont think there that bad i think victor was felling really bad in yesterdays highlights! what he said was really really out of order and NO WOMAN should EVER be spoken to like that i think he will get over it if he doesen't hes puting himself in worse s***!

[x-princess-angel-x]

i think victor is so sweet and him and his sister are so talented victor to win defo and victor&jeramy are so so so so so funny if they wernt in the big brother house then it would be so borin and not woth watchin :P lol jade to go tomoz lol:p i hate to c jade go but i would love to c victor and jeramy in the final lol :P