[Ron21]

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[bananarama]

The rule of the Thatcher years is proof of your claim.....Men are terrified of another one like her so give up and drink themselves sillier than they normally are.True..Honest.....

[Ron21]

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[bananarama]

Originally posted by Ron21
^ Actually, Thatcher was LESS anti male than the current Labour government is now.

But thanks for your input anyway

Tell that to her ministers and she would laugh you out of town...

[Ron21]

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[bananarama]

Seriously do you really believe there is an anti male bias!!! I don't know!! Perhaps you could give me some examples of new anti male bias in the last decade that is down to Government.

Because I detest Thatcher and her anti humanity stance on life in general does not mean I support this current mob in office.......Personally I am anti polititions in general regrdless of party or should I say orgy.....

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama
Seriously do you really believe there is an anti male bias!!! I don't know!! Perhaps you could give me some examples of new anti male bias in the last decade that is down to Government.

Because I detest Thatcher and her anti humanity stance on life in general does not mean I support this current mob in office.......Personally I am anti polititions in general regrdless of party or should I say orgy.....

Agreed. Does the OP actually believe men are being marginalised in this world. Please state examples.

[Ron21]

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[GiRTh]

I smell sexism.

EDIt: Sorry, I'm going to have to report you for calling me an idiot. Calm down.

[Ron21]

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[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Ron21

I smell cowardice.

And ignorance.

Girth: you are denying rape shield laws, domestic violence funding and services for women only and health spenditure plus all the other pointers I made in my opening paragraph.

YOU are what's wrong with society.

how these sheep will never learn!

But does that mean that men are being marginalised or is it that you have been a victim of these laws.

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[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ron21

See this ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls?

See how Girth runs to the admins when he doesn't like something he hears?

See how he is what every politician LOVES in its sheeple?

Oh, pathetic indeed he proves my on going point about feeding the autocrats at his own peril.

But he won't understand the point I am making, he won't understand at all !

You can have a debate without calling someone an idiot you know. THAT is ignorant.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Ron21

See this ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls?

See how Girth runs to the admins when he doesn't like something he hears?

See how he is what every politician LOVES in its sheeple?

Oh, pathetic indeed he proves my on going point about feeding the autocrats at his own peril.

But he won't understand the point I am making, he won't understand at all !

I reported you because I dont see the need to resort to insults in a discussion. I think its more idiotic to stoop to such a level when making your rather biased points.

I believe that there are a section of men, and I think you are one of them, who feel so victimised by everything that they cannot be taken seriously. I also think men like that are the real sheep.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I smell sexism.

EDIt: Sorry, I'm going to have to report you for calling me an idiot. Calm down.

GiRth, seriously, read up on some of the information Ron posted to see the evidence, don't just disagree before you have read it. If you read the information you will see it rings true and is not just an opinion. Also, how does stating facts make someone sexist?

You reported him for calling you an idiot because you disagreed before even looking up the evidence, yet it is ok for you to call him sexist for simply stating facts?

[Billy]

What does oppressed mean??

[GiRTh]

I didnt call him sexist, I called his views sexist. Theres a big difference.

I really despise men who feel they are being victimised by attempts to redress the balance. Men like that cannot be taken seriously.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I didnt call him sexist, I called his views sexist. Theres a big difference.

I really despise men who feel they are being victimised by attempts to redress the balance. Men like that cannot be taken seriously.

They can't be taken seriously despite a vast body of evidence that suggests their arguments are correct? Maybe you should read it before disagreeing? Also, you said nothing of views, you just said: 'I smell sexism'. I don't see why it makes a differance anyway, I could call your views idiotic, would that be better for you?

[Matt10k]

Also, I would just like to add GiRTh, do you despise women who feel like they are being victimised or do you think they deserve a voice in case their claims are true? Would you just dismiss a women in such a way if she felt victimised?

You don't think men are victims ever? You despise men that think they are victims without looking at any evidence that suggests they actually might be? Why is that?

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[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Also, I would just like to add GiRTh, do you despise women who feel like they are being victimised or do you think they deserve a voice in case their claims are true? Would you just dismiss a women in such a way if she felt victimised?

You don't think men are victims ever? You despise men that think they are victims without looking at any evidence that suggests they actually might be? Why is that?

I do despise women who feels they are being victimised all the time but not half as much as I despise men who feel they are the victim of every attempt to redress the balance.

Of course men are victims but some people act like in every hour of every day somewhere a man is being victimised for simply being a man. It's laugable.

[GiRTh]

I find the premise of this whole thread a joke. Men are the most dominant demographic in our society but whenever there is an attempt to redress the balalnce they are the one who claim discrimination. It's laugable. There is example after example of societies bias toward men but some men cant see it. They are the one who need read and assess the evidence.

[Matt10k]

You despise men more? I don’t understand why that is?? You hate male victims more than women victims but claim you despise both! You may find men feeling victimised ‘laughable’, I find the fact you despise men and women who feel they are victims worrying. Do you lack all compassion? You also disregard all facts presented to you, refuse to read up points that will prove our claim and write everything off as ‘sexist‘.

I was going to call you incredibly ignorant but then you would report me as you seem to enjoy doing so instead I will call your views ignorant. Believe it or not, men are victimized! Some more than others and if you weren’t so reluctant to read up, you’d realise that too.

Also, girth the balance has been readdressed- women have as many rights (though arguably more) than men have. Another thing you would know if you bothered to read up on the subject.

[GiRTh]

Of course men are victims but I dont like the way some people are constantly trying to prove it. What exactly is the problem? Have you been victimised? Then what is your issue with the sexual assault law being biased toward women. Statisitically women are sexually abused more than men.

The OP is an extremely biased statement that is built around a few carefully selected cases. I could post hundreds example that counter its claims but I dont see the point. If you honestly feel men are being marginalised in this world then you need a reality check.