[farhad]

Nasty, Evil, Clever, Bitchy, game player, Manipulator, a Smart gameplayer, cocky and funny, those words are enough to describe her as Big Brother's best villain ever.

[GiRTh]

Nick or Victor. Grace was just a very bitchy girl who bitched for absolutely no end other than because she could. Nick and Victor actually had games plans.

[Jack]

Nasty Nick was definitely.

[farhad]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Nick or Victor. Grace was just a very bitchy girl who bitched for absolutely no end other than because she could. Nick and Victor actually had games plans.

Bitchy and she was a right good manipulator, she had many sides to her bitchyness and negative character. I saw a lot of Nick, he was yes clever but thats the only side was to him where he cheated, he was never really nasty or spieful to anyone, Grace had plenty, I still remember how she manipulated Sam and Lea.

[CassetteFinger]

Nah, Makosi beat's her hand's down.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by CassetteFinger
Nah, Makosi beat's her hand's down.

AYe. Makosi was better too.

[Ross]

Nah, Makosi definately.

[Arneldo]

Grace was just a bitch. There was no motive behind her bitching, she just bitched.

Although he got found out in the end - Nasty Nick is the greatest BB villain of all time. He influenced the nominations, got people put up for nominations and avoided ever being nominated once.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Grace was just a bitch. There was no motive behind her bitching, she just bitched.

Although he got found out in the end - Nasty Nick is the greatest BB villain of all time. He influenced the nominations, got people put up for nominations and avoided ever being nominated once.

Grace was more than a bitch, I still remember how she set Sam up for a break down and in the end got the result, she was certainly better than the likes of dumb Charley.

[Wasted]

Nick? All he did was write on pieces of paper. He manipulated and lied but he broke the rules in the process, and got caught and then kicked out which is pretty lame. I don't get why he is seen as a huge villain, he looks pleasant and harmless compared to more recent HMs imo.

Makosi or Victor are by far the greatest villains. They each played a well-crafted game, Grace just bitched for the sake of it.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by farhad

Bitchy and she was a right good manipulator, she had many sides to her bitchyness and negative character. I saw a lot of Nick, he was yes clever but thats the only side was to him where he cheated, he was never really nasty or spieful to anyone, Grace had plenty, I still remember how she manipulated Sam and Lea.

She manipulated them to save her own ass. She was never very clever with it.

[Billy]

Grace was extremely clever with it. She had everyone believing her, and going against Sam.

[Arneldo]

Makosi was just a liar and attention seeker - no game playing IM and no villain.

Victor was just Jason's lapdog.

Grace didn't set anyone up IMO She just bitched then denied. Sam was just sensitive.

Nick cheated, but he got away with it for many weeks and he had a lot of them housemates wrapped around his finger. He manged to convince other to nominate in a certain way - and got them evicted.

[CassetteFinger]

Makosi played the best game, even though she did ruin her certain chance of winning, but she did come 3rd in the end and top female.

[Wasted]

To be fair though, Grace probably would've gone far if it wasn't for the chanting. She did have everyone convinced that she was such a nice person.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Makosi was just a liar and attention seeker - no game playing Im and no villain.

Victor was just Jason's lapdog.

Grace didn't set anyone up IMO She just bitched then denied. Sam was just sensitive.

Nick cheated, but he got away with it for many weeks and he had a lot of them housemates wrapped around his finger. He manged to convince other to nominate in a certain way - and got them evicted.

To be fair to Grace she was quite cunning but didn't get the opporunity to be developed due to that snoozy who nominated her up for a eviction, she had many people convinced in the house that she was a nice person, there was just many sides to her, but snoozy spoilt it before viewers got to see more to grace.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Makosi was just a liar and attention seeker - no game playing Im and no villain.

Victor was just Jason's lapdog.

Grace didn't set anyone up IMO She just bitched then denied. Sam was just sensitive.

Nick cheated, but he got away with it for many weeks and he had a lot of them housemates wrapped around his finger. He manged to convince other to nominate in a certain way - and got them evicted.

I agree. Maybe Victor and Jason should come as a team.

None of the others can compare to nasty Nick.

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Makosi was just a liar and attention seeker - no game playing Im and no villain.

Victor was just Jason's lapdog.

Grace didn't set anyone up IMO She just bitched then denied. Sam was just sensitive.

Nick cheated, but he got away with it for many weeks and he had a lot of them housemates wrapped around his finger. He manged to convince other to nominate in a certain way - and got them evicted.

The fact that Nick cheated destroys all credibility for him as a "gameplayer".

I think Victor and Jason were pretty level with each other, but if Jason left before Victor, Victor would've carried on, whereas Jason just moped about when Victor got evicted. To me that would suggest that Victor was the brains and the leader behind the Junglecats.

Makosi was a fantastic liar and stirred up huge arguments, like cider-gate, which got the HMs she didn't like nominated and evicted. Makosi was also put to the test a lot, like in her secret missions or when the HMs had to evict her or Vanessa - if she was no good at manipulating her HMs and pulling their strings then she wouldn't have made the final.

Now that's game-playing, anyone can write on a few pieces of paper, and most people probably wouldn't get caught doing it neither which is why I'd say Grace, Victor and Makosi were all much better villains than Nick, and why Victor and Makosi are much better gameplayers.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Wasted

The fact that Nick cheated destroys all credibility for him as a "gameplayer".

I think Victor and Jason were pretty level with each other, but if Jason left before Victor, Victor would've carried on, whereas Jason just moped about when Victor got evicted. To me that would suggest that Victor was the brains and the leader behind the Junglecats.

Makosi was a fantastic liar and stirred up huge arguments, like cider-gate, which got the HMs she didn't like nominated and evicted. Makosi was also put to the test a lot, like in her secret missions or when the HMs had to evict her or Vanessa - if she was no good at manipulating her HMs and pulling their strings then she wouldn't have made the final.

Now that's game-playing, anyone can write on a few pieces of paper, and most people probably wouldn't get caught doing it neither which is why I'd say Grace, Victor and Makosi were all much better villains than Nick, and why Victor and Makosi are much better gameplayers.

Makosi and Victor had their golden moments because they stayed longer and avoided nominations, if Grace had of not been up for eviction and stayed longer, she would of topped all of them as the best, things was getting much more interesting in her final 7 days at BB house.

[Captain.Remy]

I completely agree with Wasted, Makosi and Victor are the biggest game-players, Grace was not one, she was just bitching around and had no gameplan at all.

Makosi made BB6 by herself, she lied, she manipulated, she got everything she wanted and no matter if she is an attention seeker. And in order to be a good game-player you have to lie, there is no wonder.

And Nick. Well he's a villain but not a game-player, he really thought he wouldn't have been caught by Big Brother but his idea was not bad and it created a lot of drama about it.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : farhad
Nasty, Evil, Clever, Bitchy, game player, Manipulator, a Smart gameplayer, cocky and funny.

Those words describe Makosi more than Grace.

[GiRTh]

Maksoi was a good game player but she was way too immature to pull it off. She would be one of the best villains if it wasn't for her immaturity eg. 'I think I'm pregnant'.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Those words describe Makosi more than Grace.

It descirbes both of them, although Makosi is the better gameplayer, Grace was the better bitch and quite a good manipulator, she had many sides to her character, had of she stayed long, we would of seen more side to it.

[Arneldo]

I disagree with Makosi. She was an attention seeking and I don't think anything she did was part of a game. She just wanted to be centre of it all.

Victor was a lapdog for the Jason. I even think Ahmed was a better player then him.

[dupin]

I'd say the best gameplayer was Brian (BB8) - he played the game better than the others, because he won. Pete also played it very well.