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Old 24-04-2008, 02:44 PM #1
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My name's Scott and I'm doing a Media studies course at college. I'm a huge Big Brother fan so for my critical research study I decided to investigate how last year's Celebrity Big Brother race row has affected reality TV. Basically, I'm here to ask you guys what you think.

Do you think that reality TV programmes such as Big Brother have become a lot more careful with what they broadcast since last year's Celebrity Big Brother race row? Have you noticed any changes in the show which may be directly linked to last January's events?

It'd be really great to hear some of your thoughts and opinions on this which I could quote in my exam. Please let me know what you think. Thanks!
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I'm Darenn.

I think they have.
for example.
Big Brother 8.
Emily Parr.
I loved her so much and she's so obviously not racist.
and before the race row, she'd have just got a warning or a ticking off.
but they EJECTED her for it?
How wrong is that.
IMO; she was the best housemate to walk through those doors and the race row from CBB completely ruined her time there.

It's also funny that there were like. 200 complaints stating that they shouldn't have shown the actual incident.
but then over a 1000 complaints that Emily shouldn't have been ejected.
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Quite a few things happened off the back of that.

1) Emily's ejection as already mentioned with them receiving so many complaints. Then Charley and Ziggy reportedly said the exact same thing at some point, no action taken- more complaints for unfairness.
2) Celebrity Big Brother 6 was postponed by a year and its replacement was moved off Channel 4 and onto E4 because Big Brother wasn't out of the papers for over a year. They wanted it low key. It made way for a format change in the way of Celebrity Hijack.
3) They purposely made BB8 boring to emphasise the show cannot work without controversy, but whilst they did that they potentially damaged the brand with viewing figures at an all time low, all publicity being negative and the lowest ever turnout for auditions for BB9.

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I think it affected the future of Big Brother, but in the short term. Personally, I think the race row was blown way outta proportion and wasn't as big of a deal as the public/media made it out to be. The behavior of Jade & Jo was no different to that of some previous housemates (BB7 Grace and CBB4 Pete are just two names that spring to mind.) I don’t believe either Jade or Jo was racist, but I do think they behaved like jealous bitches. I do believe some of the comments Danielle made could have been interpreted as raciest, however I believe she should have been addressed by production about this – and not been allowed say what she thought and sail through to the final.

Like I said, the race row affected the future of BB, as seen in Big Brother 8. Weather it changed it for the better or worse is up to the individual. Emily Parr was ejected from BB8 for saying a racially offensive word - regardless of weather C4 did this because of race row - I think it was the right thing to do. Emily used a racially offensive word in a direct manner and deserved to be shown the back door. Yes a couple of hundred people complained - but compared to the amount of people who didn’t and who agreed with C4 decision, the number is small.

It effected the housemate selection, and last year we saw a lot more laid back housemates compared to recent years. As much as this could have been to do with race row, I think it was needed.

C4 and BB love controversy, and race row provided just that – however, they allowed it to get too out of control and they have themselves to blame more than anything.

In other reality TV, I think it brought to light what can be deemed offensive. For example on ‘Hells Kitchen’ people complained when head chef called people “pikeys”. Would this have happed had it not been for the race row? Would people really care?

Over one year on, I can’t see the race row affecting the any reality TV, including BB much. I think for the most part, people are over it.
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I think it affected the future of Big Brother, but in the short term. Personally, I think the race row was blown way outta proportion and wasn't as big of a deal as the public/media made it out to be. The behavior of Jade & Jo was no different to that of some previous housemates (BB7 Grace and CBB4 Pete are just two names that spring to mind.) I don’t believe either Jade or Jo was racist, but I do think they behaved like jealous bitches. I do believe some of the comments Danielle made could have been interpreted as raciest, however I believe she should have been addressed by production about this – and not been allowed say what she thought and sail through to the final.

Like I said, the race row affected the future of BB, as seen in Big Brother 8. Weather it changed it for the better or worse is up to the individual. Emily Parr was ejected from BB8 for saying a racially offensive word - regardless of weather C4 did this because of race row - I think it was the right thing to do. Emily used a racially offensive word in a direct manner and deserved to be shown the back door. Yes a couple of hundred people complained - but compared to the amount of people who didn’t and who agreed with C4 decision, the number is small.

It effected the housemate selection, and last year we saw a lot more laid back housemates compared to recent years. As much as this could have been to do with race row, I think it was needed.

C4 and BB love controversy, and race row provided just that – however, they allowed it to get too out of control and they have themselves to blame more than anything.

In other reality TV, I think it brought to light what can be deemed offensive. For example on ‘Hells Kitchen’ people complained when head chef called people “pikeys”. Would this have happed had it not been for the race row? Would people really care?

Over one year on, I can’t see the race row affecting the any reality TV, including BB much. I think for the most part,

people are over it.
re Emily. MOre people complained that she was ejected, than the people that complained about her saying it.
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I think it affected the future of Big Brother, but in the short term. Personally, I think the race row was blown way outta proportion and wasn't as big of a deal as the public/media made it out to be. The behavior of Jade & Jo was no different to that of some previous housemates (BB7 Grace and CBB4 Pete are just two names that spring to mind.) I don’t believe either Jade or Jo was racist, but I do think they behaved like jealous bitches. I do believe some of the comments Danielle made could have been interpreted as raciest, however I believe she should have been addressed by production about this – and not been allowed say what she thought and sail through to the final.

Like I said, the race row affected the future of BB, as seen in Big Brother 8. Weather it changed it for the better or worse is up to the individual. Emily Parr was ejected from BB8 for saying a racially offensive word - regardless of weather C4 did this because of race row - I think it was the right thing to do. Emily used a racially offensive word in a direct manner and deserved to be shown the back door. Yes a couple of hundred people complained - but compared to the amount of people who didn’t and who agreed with C4 decision, the number is small.

It effected the housemate selection, and last year we saw a lot more laid back housemates compared to recent years. As much as this could have been to do with race row, I think it was needed.

C4 and BB love controversy, and race row provided just that – however, they allowed it to get too out of control and they have themselves to blame more than anything.

In other reality TV, I think it brought to light what can be deemed offensive. For example on ‘Hells Kitchen’ people complained when head chef called people “pikeys”. Would this have happed had it not been for the race row? Would people really care?

Over one year on, I can’t see the race row affecting the any reality TV, including BB much. I think for the most part,

people are over it.
re Emily. MOre people complained that she was ejected, than the people that complained about her saying it.

Obviously. Why would people complain about her staying in when she was ejected? There was no need as she was ejected within a few hours - thank the heavens. Had they not, I believe FAR more people would have complained. C4 and Endemol did the right thing. She had to go. Imagine the reaction of people had she of stayed - good grief!
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Either way they were going to get thousands of complaints so kicking her out was the lesser of two evils (she could justify things right away even though she didn't have to) rather than it dragging on and BB feeling under strain like CBB5 did. Personally I don't think she should have been removed.
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Thanks for all your comments guys, you've been really helpfull! There's loads of good quotes here i'll be able to use! Keep 'em coming!
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In terms of BB8 I think it most definetly effected BB. Would Laura have been given a warning for calling Gerry a **** if it wasn't for CBB5? I think not. It also revealed the producers falseness. They were just waiting for somone to say something that could be deemed offensive so that they could throw them out or give them a warning. They didn't care how many people used the same sort of language afterwards it made no difference to them. They only needed one person to do the deed so that they could show people that they were "putting their foot down".
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btw,I believe this is what started the whole rabe row thing,when shilpa was laughing at jade for how she pronounced whale,as pointed out by jermaine onthis clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoDuJ...aynext_from=PL
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^ Huh! I don't think so. The bullying had started well before that.
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Originally posted by Darenn
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I'm Darenn.

I think they have.
for example.
Big Brother 8.
Emily Parr.
I loved her so much and she's so obviously not racist.
and before the race row, she'd have just got a warning or a ticking off.
but they EJECTED her for it?
How wrong is that.
IMO; she was the best housemate to walk through those doors and the race row from CBB completely ruined her time there.

It's also funny that there were like. 200 complaints stating that they shouldn't have shown the actual incident.
but then over a 1000 complaints that Emily shouldn't have been ejected.




She might not be a rasist!
but, what she said, WAS rasist! so she done wrong, and nothing in CBB was achulay RASIST, it was jus bullying, what Emily said was 100% rasist,
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Hey scott =]
I'm Darenn.

I think they have.
for example.
Big Brother 8.
Emily Parr.
I loved her so much and she's so obviously not racist.
and before the race row, she'd have just got a warning or a ticking off.
but they EJECTED her for it?
How wrong is that.
IMO; she was the best housemate to walk through those doors and the race row from CBB completely ruined her time there.

It's also funny that there were like. 200 complaints stating that they shouldn't have shown the actual incident.
but then over a 1000 complaints that Emily shouldn't have been ejected.




She might not be a rasist!
but, what she said, WAS rasist! so she done wrong, and nothing in CBB was achulay RASIST, it was jus bullying, what Emily said was 100% rasist,
It's only racist if there was meaning behind it. It may have been interpreted as racist, but unless she actually had a problem with black people - which we will never know - you can not for sure say that it was racist.

PS
Pmsl @ how long ago I first posted in this thread.
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