[James]

Michelle, Stuart and Jason are discussing the night before now. They don't sound like they think anyone will be thrown out.

Stuart says he doesn't remember much from the night before.

[kaphc]

I posted somewhere on another thread about being concerned about Emma going back into the house as she is such a volatile character, but I never thought it would all get as bad as this.

I am upset too by the amount of aggressive behaviour that has gone on. The scene in the lounge and the fact that they had to send in security guards - how on earth did 11 grown-up people let everything get into that state!

Where do we draw the line between entertainment and unacceptable things to have on what is essentially a TV game show? And how much alcohol did BB provide them with to fuel this situation?

Sorry if I sound negative, but I am trying to take this all in ...

[Kanye_West]

Emma is that thick she thinks if she shouts shell win. Which got the guys annoyed. All their faults really. But mostly Emma's for not keeping her big gob shut!

[BusyBee]

In all this did Emma let on that they knew what had been going on?

Just goes to prove what happens when excessive alcohol is available - they seemed to have loads last night. Who on earth did the psychological assessment of this lot.

It was obvious something was going to happen - surprised though that it wasnt Victor - Jason was fit to burst you could see it in his face.

I reckon it could all kick off again, the way they are all feeling it will just take one word in the wrong place. How on earth can they live together for another 6 weeks feeling as they do.

Well BB have certain managed to make this BB unboring!!!

[dustmite]

Who did a psychological assessment... now, hasn't Gareth done the psychological assessments for most BBs at almost all levels? If so, it wouldn't surprise me if he missed something of this calibre...

...not that I don't like the guy...

[Armshouse]

Emma was totally out of order saying "stop acting like a typical black man"!

WTF! How Rude?

[James]

Originally posted by BusyBee
In all this did Emma let on that they knew what had been going on?

Emma let on to certain people I think, like Marco and Nadia.

That's probably why Marco reacted like he did after Jason told them to clear up the mess after the food fight.

[dustmite]

Originally posted by Armshouse
Emma was totally out of order saying "stop acting like a typical black man"!

WTF! How Rude?

But that's not unlike him saying things about white people either.

Stereotypical racism, most people do it, and most people don't realise they're doing it... but that really doesn't even figure in what happened yesterday, there's many more troubling issues.

[bananarama]

Entertaining but uncomfortable viewing. This pshychological violence generated by BB has I think gone to far. If that is negative I am sorry but I don't like seeing people suffer mentally to this degree.

Some are blaming Emma for kicking off. Emma was the bullet but BB was the gun. Blame BB not Emma. They put her and Michelle in a pressure cooker. Surprise surprise it has blown and some have got hurt.

From the word go it has been clear that Victor thinks like a gangster. talks like a gangster. (A deluded godfathert type)

If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck then Victor is a gangster.

Of all the BB characters BB should do the honourable thing and expel him from the house.

If Emma has tried any violence then BB must be held responsible for putting her into such a highly strung state of mind. To have someone in a room for days seeing no fresh air. Constantly fed controversial material concerning themselves and then expect them to behave like sane people when released. I don't think so.

Jason is also quite vile and his position in the house should be considered as untenable.

I understand that Venessa at some stage also kicked off big time and Shell and Nadia may have got well overheated.

Dan not my favourite man has handled the situation well and credit to him for that. Michelle too although a bit weepy at times has been a calming influence trying to calm Emma down. Even those that don't like at least give her credit for her more calming behavour.

As I said at the beginning. Entertaining because it is shocking but it leaves a bit of a nasty tast in my mouth...I actually feel guilty for enjoying it.

[dustmite]

I do not really blame BB here, I blame the psychologists that said the housemates were a stable collection.

How on earth did they, the single most important people on the team, screw up? Can't blame Endemol there.

[Armshouse]

Hmmm yes Victor does talk like he is from the Endz (the ghetto, hood)

Has he once showed that he acts gangsta, sells drugs, handles guns etc etc

Why has the word Gangsta come into it?? Ah i Know, because he is black eh?

[dustmite]

Originally posted by Armshouse
Hmmm yes Victor does talk like he is from the Endz (the ghetto, hood)

Has he once showed that he acts gangsta, sells drugs, handles guns etc etc

Why has the word Gangsta come into it?? Ah i Know, because he is black eh?

No, he fits the stereotypical image.

That's how stereotypes work, if people wouldn't get so worked up about them, the world would be an infinately happier place.

[Armshouse]

So a loud, young black male, stereotype is a Gangsta, hmmmmmmm and you wonder why people get upset!........

[bananarama]

Why has the word Gangsta come into it?? Ah i Know, because he is black eh?

No..Because he talks like a gangster makes the same type of threats as a gangster. clearly has the mentality of a gangster. I will not refrain from saying what I believe about a person because they are "black". If Jason talked in the same gangster style I would be saying exactly the same about him....

[Armshouse]

Hmmmmm

Ur views are weak, Victor talks like a normal black male for his age, not a Gangster.

[dustmite]

I would clarify, I am not making my stereotypical comments in respect to his race/skin colour either, couldn't care if he was purple, there's still the 'steoreotypical' activities that a 'gangster' get up to.

Oh, and before you jump further down my throat, I'm not saying I agree or disagree with what happened, I'm just saying it's the assignment of stereotypes, that's a normal sociological thing.

[Armshouse]

Originally posted by dustmite
I would clarify, I am not making my stereotypical comments in respect to his race/skin colour either, couldn't care if he was purple, there's still the 'steoreotypical' activities that a 'gangster' get up to.

.

Sell Drugs, Shoot Guns, Drink on Street Corners with their peeps, Pimp Women.......

Victor has shown none of these........


Dont matter.....

Emma is just acting like some dippy white girl........

[bananarama]

Ur views are weak, Victor talks like a normal black male for his age, not a Gangster.

Well. If Victor represents "Normal" behavour then god help us all.

By making such a statement you are insulting the typical black male.

I have lived and worked and socialised with black males and females and your description does not fit what I have found to be typical or normal or what ever meaningless words your mind set wants to latch on to..

[Armshouse]

That comment sums it all up eh, nothing else to back up your weak argument.

[Armshouse]

basically, Emma knew Victor would skitz out!

She was like a kid playing with a landmine.

She made him go off.

Victor will be next to be evicted, standard.

We will never see an ethnic person win BB, especially after seeing the views put across in all the forums today.

[NachoNovo]

Your man Victor, walks and talks like he's a gangster and talks about being from the 'streets', walks about with a fake 50 cent swagger and generally thinks he's a hardman, then on the other hand he walks about singing 'busted' songs, and some of the things he talks about are pure "SH!T". Victor's no gangster, he's just a young black guy that thinks because he's black that he has to act like some sort of Boy from the Hood, when really thats all he is, is a boy! one who's making himself a target for real gangsters when he gets out. I bet you some lads will just walk up to him in the street and say "Do, you know who i am?" and probably kick the sh!t out of him. Well deserved in my opinion. Also, too Armshouse what you where saying about Victor not selling drugs, shooting guns etc, etc... well thats the impression he's trying to give that he does do all this. Dunno about the pimpin women tho, he does talk on load of crap about his past sexual experiences but i think its all bullsh!t.

[bananarama]

That comment sums it all up eh, nothing else to back up your weak argument

It's far to early in the day for such a laugh...

It is alway a good idea when reading a counter reply to actually absorb what has been said before you comment back.

[Ash*]

Emma is completely cu coo. She is nuts. Michelle no different. They had inside info. They were using for there all the info for Revenge. Both Michelle and Emma are vindictive animals, nothing more nothing less.

Emma is a vindictive woman, she has no sense or any brain. She has even admitted it her self.

She was the catalyst in all that happened last night. You have to remember they told Marco, Maroc using his pee brian agitated Jason. All heel got lose.

Victor was stupid to allow Emma to get to him. He was wrong on hitting Emma. That is not acceptable.

Far as i am concerned both should be thrown out. Emma for being the dumb person that she is, should be taken out of her misery, and removed form Big Brother.

The most stupid thing was the way the two were aloud to hear the conversations.

Every one in the house were making private conversations. How would Emma have felt say it was Victor who was in the bedsit listening to her private conversation and came out with all the rubbish that she would have been saying.

[dustmite]

The bedsit idea, itself, was made well. The problem, really, is that the psychologists made an error... a big one, yes, but an error nonetheless

[Frogster]

Originally posted by Armshouse

Victor will be next to be evicted, standard.

We will never see an ethnic person win BB, especially after seeing the views put across in all the forums today.

Well, from an older persons point of view, maybe thats a good thing.... and before you jump..... everyone has their own opinion... thats mine!