[AndyJK]

Through his intimidation and bullying, Victor has forced BB to evict Emma by refusing to bury the hatchet ruling out another repeat of Wednesday's evening fight, thus threatening Emma's own personal safety if she returned. What a brute. I bet he feels smuggly proud his aggressive, threatening behaviour towards a girl has paid off.

How can BB producers justify their decision when Victor gets let off with a slapped wrist when he has broken other rules like climbing the roof? Look at the way he has taken control of the house and placed his strangehold over the other housemates. Why should Emma be the victim in this when she merely stood up to a nasty bully?

What a disgrace

[Amy]

There is only one person in the BB house that I can say that I do not like and that person is Victor.

[bananarama]

I am now struggling to want to continue watching this BB disgrace. Such a shame and what an example to set. Allowing a prize rat to flourish at the expense of a youngster who wanted to enjoy herself and entertain us all.

The slickman skunk just want's to be the "Big man" along with the muscle brain Jason

[BusyBee]

As I've said before the bullies have won. I am disgusted that Victor and Jason for that matter have been allowed to get off scot free.

BB you have taken the easy route. They should all have been chucked out not just Emma.

Cant wait for Victor to leave - they thought the reception that Adele got was bad, but that will be nothing to what greets me.

I hope BB gets lot of complaints. Victor the vile to go.

[bananarama]

Daniel was given instructions to read out the news of Emma leaving. Some glum faces at the moment. Victor was silent so to was Jason. Won't be long before they start grinning at evil being triumphant over good.

[Amy]

Originally posted by BusyBee
Cant wait for Victor to leave

Fear not half the country can't wait for Victor to leave, he may think he's the master of "the game" but wait until he's voted and I don't think it'll be long before he's for the public vote

[BusyBee]

Amy the first time he is up for the public vote he will be out (the only way he has a chance of staying in is if Jason is up with him).

[golden~rose]

just gives victor an even bigger head, now he thinks that he is manipulating bb!!!

[BusyBee]

just gives victor an even bigger head, now he thinks that he is manipulating bb!!!

Think on Victor the bigger the head the further you have to fall when you come out.

[Slartibartfast]

I can't believe Emma is being made out to be the poor victim in all this. She instigated the whole affair!! BB has to take some responsibility for sticking her in a little room and letting her build herself up to such a frenzy that when she got in the house, she just burst!

But Jay and Vic (neither of whom am I a big fan of anyway) left them and went out to the snug. Ok they went out to plot, but at least they left them alone. And she couldn't let it lie, and provoked and taunted them. If anything, she asked for a lot of it. Vic is just right to not want to talk to her again. He has no idea what to expect from her, the girl is nuts. It's best for her and her family that she be sent home.

[bananarama]

Wouldn't you burst if you had been cooped up for days in a bedsit not seeing the light of day. listening to people talk about you and insult you. And not be able to defend youself.

This was a cruel and intolorable srtess that was put on both girls for our entertainment. so i think the least we could do is support them instead of making out it's their fault...The truth is most of us are to blame wanting an exciting BB. Well we got it. So now let's have some fair play and justice to the players...

[James]

I can't believe Emma is being made out to be the poor victim in all this. She instigated the whole affair!! BB has to take some responsibility for sticking her in a little room and letting her build herself up to such a frenzy that when she got in the house, she just burst!

But Jay and Vic (neither of whom am I a big fan of anyway) left them and went out to the snug. Ok they went out to plot, but at least they left them alone. And she couldn't let it lie, and provoked and taunted them. If anything, she asked for a lot of it. Vic is just right to not want to talk to her again. He has no idea what to expect from her, the girl is nuts. It's best for her and her family that she be sent home.

Yeah, after watching Emma the other night I can see why they've removed her. She seemed to have regressed into childhood!

And if Victor is going to become the most hated person in Britain I don't see how he can consider himself victorious.

[bananarama]

She seemed to have regressed into childhood!

I don't think she has regressed as she has shown to have a natural childish personality or even a low mental age with a tendency to throw tantrums. No doubt that's why she was selected in the first place.

As a footnote on E4 it hasn't taken Jason long to start his usual mauling of Venessa. She needs a much better player than him to save her from the chop.....

[BusyBee]

As I've said before either the psychologists were rubbish or BB ignored their views. I was actually speaking to a psychologist yesterday and they said that putting two girls in a room as BB did and letting them watch what others were saying would have badly affected the sanest of people let alone someone like Emma and then to put her back in by herself she would have seen as punishing her. He reckons that she will need a lot of help.

BTW he says Victor's behaviour is of someone who is putting on a huge act to everyone whilst having insecurity tendencies. He picks on the weakest to make the others think he is someone to be reckoned with and who you shouldnt get on the wrong side of.

Cant see the insecurity myself.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by bananarama
Wouldn't you burst if you had been cooped up for days in a bedsit not seeing the light of day. listening to people talk about you and insult you. And not be able to defend youself.

This was a cruel and intolorable srtess that was put on both girls for our entertainment. so i think the least we could do is support them instead of making out it's their fault...The truth is most of us are to blame wanting an exciting BB. Well we got it. So now let's have some fair play and justice to the players...

Michelle seems to be doing alright after her time in the bedsit.

and I can't believe Emma got so high and mighty about people talking about her. Only two days into the show, her and Marco were out bitching in the snug about Vanessa. And that was just the start.

I have very little sympathy for her, aprt from the fact that BB have to take some of the blame for it all. But even after the whole big fight, she was still happy and hyper in the bedsit. As if nothing had happened. The girl needs to go home, and Victor made a wise choice not wanting to face that again.

[Amy]

Originally posted by Slartibartfast
I have very little sympathy for her, aprt from the fact that BB have to take some of the blame for it all. But even after the whole big fight, she was still happy and hyper in the bedsit. As if nothing had happened. The girl needs to go home, and Victor made a wise choice not wanting to face that again.

Lets not forget here that Michelle came up with the "lets wind the hosuemates up " plan whilst in the bedsit and Emma, like she always did, did as Michelle told her too and Michelle seems to have got away with anything to do with the bedsit and arguments since. I know Emma is no angel, I've said that all day but no one person can be to blame for this whole argument as everyone at one point got involved.

[bananarama]

Cant see the insecurity myself

No. You can't see it outwardly but he has to keep proving and telling the world how great he is. So yes he is insecure and potentially quite dangerous to anyone who is able to belittle his self dream of himself.

Emma is safer outside his company but he should have been removed and not her.

[Slartibartfast]

Yeah, but Michelle's plan was to go in and not tell them about the whole bedsit thing, and try to slowly wind them. using subtlety [sic?] and guile (which was always gonna fail) Whereas, on her own Emma would have charged in and had gone straight for Vic.

Don't get me wrong, all are to blame to some degree (well, except poor Ahmed, I think the rowdy housemates woke him up!!), but BB and Emma have to take the lions share, and I can't see how people can make out that poor Emma is the victim, while Victor is made out to be the embodiment of evil in human form.

[bananarama]

Well. we all see things differently. Be a dull world if we did not...

[golden~rose]

i agree, that they are all to blame in many ways after it was a complex argument as too much was going on before, during and after the argument!!

[James]

I'm surprised people think Emma is all sweetness and light. She did spit over Victor (not nice) and repeated 'I'll ****ing kill ya' over and over again. Though of course it is worse when a man is being aggresive to a woman.

But I thought Jason outdid Victor in the scarily aggresive stakes. He looked and sounded very close to throwing a punch.

The fact that Emma denied there would be anymore trouble, in the manner that a child would, afterwards suggests to me that she hasn't dealt with it properly inside her own head.

[Hooly One]

The good thing about this is, that the public have seen his bullying and his intimidation of HMs (' He also seems to think the public are a bunch of morons').. when he is evicted in the next couple of weeks, he will be booed and probably egged.

It's so going to happen, he's likely going to be booed worser then adele was in bb3.

[Slartibartfast]

Why is it worse when a man is aggressive to a woman than vice versa? Does this mean women can be aggressive to men, safe in the knowledge that any aggressive reaction by the man will ultimately been seen as worse?

[golden~rose]

personally i dont think its fair, but it seems that there are alot of reasons, like women give birth etc.

[Sticks]

This has appeared on Sky News

Victor should be the winner of BB5

This will show that threats and intimidation do work, as they do in the real world.

I was told once by an ex teacher that they used bullies and made them something like head prefect. If they instill fear, then give them a badge and authority to beat up the weaklings. In effect the bullies become teachers pet.

Works in the prison service as well, bullies are employed to help keep order.

And of course at work, management by fear gets results....


The Tag line to BB5 is Big Brother gets Evil

What can be more evil than making Victor the ultimate winner of BB5

(Can I get my toungue out of my cheek now ?)