[SiaSiaSia]

We did this debate about 5 years ago in class and was wondering what everyone thought?

EDIT: I put this in serious debates as I want to DISCUSS it, some of the things I say aren't necessarily MY views, but within a debate you have to consider both sides of the story.

[Princess]

A million percent against. Its just plain cruel.

[Jackie]

Yes it's so cruel and pointless.

[MarkWaldorf]

Against. I HATE it when you see those posh folk on the news/tv who express extreme passion for it. It's vulgar and inhumane.

[MarkWaldorf]

I want to know who voted yes.

[Princess]

Originally posted by Markus
I want to know who voted yes.

I have a feeling I clicked it by accident *hits self on head*

[kerri]

Totally and utterly against and yes i'd like to hear the reasons of the people who voted for it? Anybody? Its sick its cruel its a spineless activity however you look at it we've all got a right to life whatever shape or form xx

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Princess

I have a feeling I clicked it by accident *hits self on head*

LOL Oh! I was ready for a full on debate.

[Tom]

Against, I think its disgusting and sadistic. Why is it someones idea of fun to kill a fox that has done absolutely nothing to them and then sugar coat it with rubbish stories about keeping numbers down?

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Markus

LOL Oh! I was ready for a full on debate.

A few of my friends [YES i go to a posh school] horseride, one does for Britain, and they always find ways out of the fox hunting ban. Or they do it but don't kill the fox at the end.

You can't just say it's inhumane because we're killing animals. Technically, It's the dogs that are killing the animals. Are you a vegetarian, Markus?

I don't want to have a go/start an argument but this is in Serious debates so we should consider all sides of the stories.

[Princess]

I love being a veggie,its gets you out of these animal rights debates.

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Tom
Against, I think its disgusting and sadistic. Why is it someones idea of fun to kill a fox that has done absolutely nothing to them and then sugar coat it with rubbish stories about keeping numbers down?

Well, if you control a population it needs to be constant.
A few of my friends have THEIR chickens killed by foxes a lot more now, and the chickens end up being more scared and producing less eggs.
This results in less chickens
& with less chickens there are less foxes aren't there?

Besides 100,000 foxes are shot or snared each year, but only 16,000 foxes are killed by hunts.

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Princess
I love being a veggie,its gets you out of these animal rights debates.

:P

[Tom]

Originally posted by SiaSiaSia

Well, if you control a population it needs to be constant.
A few of my friends have THEIR chickens killed by foxes a lot more now, and the chickens end up being more scared and producing less eggs.
This results in less chickens
& with less chickens there are less foxes aren't there?

Besides 100,000 foxes are shot or snared each year, but only 16,000 foxes are killed by hunts.

Theres also a massive increase in human population, and humans are killing other animals as well. Some chickens may be scared and produce less eggs. Should we start to do human hunting as well to keep population growth down?

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by SiaSiaSia

A few of my friends [YES i go to a posh school] horseride, one does for Britain, and they always find ways out of the fox hunting ban. Or they do it but don't kill the fox at the end.

You can't just say it's inhumane because we're killing animals. Technically, It's the dogs that are killing the animals. Are you a vegetarian, Markus?

I don't want to have a go/start an argument but this is in Serious debates so we should consider all sides of the stories.

I was a vegetarian but for personal reasons I had to stop. That doesn't mean I'm always eating meat though. And it doesn't mean I enjoy it either.

I didn't mean ALL posh people fox hunt or what not. I just meant the majority I see doing it as an activity are from a wealthy background. Obviously if you knows others that do it too then I'll take that in.

[Tom4784]

I don't really care either way, I suppose in certain agricultural areas it's more neccesary since foxes are a nuisance but I don't really care.

[Ninastar]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I don't really care either way, I suppose in certain agricultural areas it's more neccesary since foxes are a nuisance but I don't really care.

agreed

As long as its not for fur or anything like that.

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Tom

Theres also a massive increase in human population, and humans are killing other animals as well. Some chickens may be scared and produce less eggs. Should we start to do human hunting as well to keep population growth down?

Lol my piano teacher thought I was really strange when I was going on about the human population increase and how we needed to stop it but there was no way, really. :S

Good argument, Tom! If I used karma I'd give you some.

Hmm, but with less chickens and more foxes what does that result in?

Foxes aren't really eaten in england are they?! whereas even Vegetarians can have eggs.

[Nicky.]

I know everyone will now hate me now.. but I voted for.
For the simple fact I love sheep xD

Foxes kill sheep right? So if you kill the foxes, the sheep will be ok

Thats my theory on it anyway x

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Markus

I was a vegetarian but for personal reasons I had to stop. That doesn't mean I'm always eating meat though. And it doesn't mean I enjoy it either.

I didn't mean ALL posh people fox hunt or what not. I just meant the majority I see doing it as an activity are from a wealthy background. Obviously if you knows others that do it too then I'll take that in.

Oh okay, I just think it's a bit hypocritical to say "It's cruel to kill animals" if you eat meat, but I don't think you are being one.

& I have to admit that some of my friends ARE posh fox hunters, but most are just the normal farmer lot!

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Nickyy
I know everyone will now hate me now.. but I voted for.
For the simple fact I love sheep xD

Foxes kill sheep right? So if you kill the foxes, the sheep will be ok

Thats my theory on it anyway x

Yeah, Foxes kill quite a lot of animals.

[Nicky.]

Yup they do

Killing one fox is like saving a bunch of others x

[Indierock&roll]

against!! its cruel and theres no point i hate cruelty to animals as i feell they have as much of a right as we do

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Nickyy
Yup they do

Killing one fox is like saving a bunch of others x

I think that, too.
Buuut if we went overboard with hunting, then there would be less foxes, and the animals that eat foxes would suffer, or there would be TOO many rabbits/sheep, and they would die due to lack of food.

what animals DO eat foxes?
x

[Mrluvaluva]

It's a barbaric "sport".