[Spike]

I have been thinking about this alot recently. Up until now I have always thought animals which will be eaten should be looked after in the right conditions and not treated badly
but now I am thinking they are a product which are going to die if looked after or not. Why waste extra money on them when they will just be killed and eaten? It is a life but they are below us in the food chain, so why shouldn't we farm them badly to our advantage because we are above them.
I know most people will say they should be treated well but what are your thoughts on this?

[Sam!]

Yeh I think they defo should be.

[Nurse57]

A happy cow is a tasty cow.

[Fom]

Originally posted by Spike
I have been thinking about this alot recently. Up until now I have always thought animals which will be eaten should be looked after in the right conditions and not treated badly
but now I am thinking they are a product which are going to die if looked after or not. Why waste extra money on them when they will just be killed and eaten? It is a life but they are below us in the food chain, so why shouldn't we farm them badly to our advantage because we are above them.
I know most people will say they should be treated well but what are your thoughts on this?

Thats like saying we should lock you in a cupboard for your life... doesnt matter, you are going to die anyway! Let them enjoy what life they get! Remember these are not objects, they are not like apples, they are living breathing animals. Would you shove your dog in a cage and watch it waste away slowly and say "Oh well it will die eventually"

I extremely strongly disagree with your opinion.

Also I agree with the above, "A happy cow is a tasty cow" Very true... free range animals have been proven to taste nicer, stronger muscles... juicier meat!

[Spike]

I don't know if I believe animals should be treated well or not.
I can see the arguments for both sides now whereas before I just agreed with animals being looked after well.

[Fom]

Originally posted by Spike
I don't know if I believe animals should be treated well or not.
I can see the arguments for both sides now whereas before I just agreed with animals being looked after well.

The only argument I can see for... is that someone is greedy and wants lots of money. Someone prefers money than having morals!

[Callum]

I think they defenitley should be treated well.

[Captain.Remy]

Animal rights:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights

I think your debate is a wrong debate because there is no question about it, it's like if you are asking: Should we be allowed to kill someone ?

[LemonJam]

Vegetarian.

[Llamajohn]

yep...happy animals ARE tastier.

it's why they are killed humanely...if they are in pain, adrenaline whatever gets into the bloodstream and ruins the meat.

[Marc]

I think we should cut back on the amount of money we spend in over areas instead; eg. the stupid amount of money spent on fireworks at opening ceremonies and new years/x mas celebrations... cruelty is the worst thing on this earth. There are plently of ways of cutting costs to provide for animals

[Sarah.]

Have you ever seen how some animals are treated when in farms? It's disgusting and no animal deserves to be treated like that. Of course animals should be treated well.. I'm a little shocked that you would even say they shouldn't.

[Kate..]

I'm really surprised that anyone could think that. We are all going to die eventually, does that mean we should make our lives as sh*t as possible because who cares we are just going to die anyway. We have killed many animals natual living instincts because of eating them, which in my opinion is bad enough. Chickens and cows have no survival instincts what so ever and they completely depend on us, which they shouldn't. Animals were here before us humans so they have the right to live life just as good as us, if not better.

[Tom]

Yes, they also deserve to be killed humanely. Some might say thats an oxymoron but I mean something very quick and "painless", not the way halal meat is produced.

I hate it when animals aren't treated fairly, its the reason why I won't go near KFC.

[Llamajohn]

plus...aren't we humans on earth as gaurdians or summat to look after all other life?

That what God says anyway....

[Spike]

Originally posted by Llamajohn
plus...aren't we humans on earth as gaurdians or summat to look after all other life?

That what God says anyway....

God isn't real and religion is lies
so I wouldn't be worried about what God says

[Kate..]

Originally posted by Spike

God isn't real and religion is lies
so I wouldn't be worried about what God says

You can't say that as a fact, you have to state that that is your opinion because otherwise that can be quite offensive.

[Sarah.]

Originally posted by Spike

God isn't real and religion is lies
so I wouldn't be worried about what God says

I disagree with you there. You don't know for a fact he's not real and why should you say religion is lies? People can choose to be a part of a religion if they want to. That's the point of faith, that's what they believe. So don't say it as if it's a fact because it's never been proven and probably never will. But that's moving onto a whole other topic.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Kate..

You can't say that as a fact, you have to state that that is your opinion because otherwise that can be quite offensive.

I can state that as fact until there is enough proof God is real and religion is correct.

[Kate..]

No you can't because then people that beleive in it can say that it's a fact that god is true because there's no proof that he isn't.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Kate..
No you can't because then people that beleive in it can say that it's a fact that god is true because there's no proof that he isn't.

Well ok then those people can prove it.
I can't and don't have to prove that something isn't real because thats the point it isn't real so how can there be any proof?

[Kate..]

How can you proove it isn't real?

[Sarah.]

You're just close minded. You think your opinion is fact when it's not.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Kate..
How can you proove it isn't real?

I can't prove he isn't real because there is no proof of his existance apart from what a few crazy people said thousands of years ago.
you can only prove that someone is real, and until someone can prove God is real in my mind he isn't

[Llamajohn]

Originally posted by Spike

I can state that as fact until there is enough proof God is real and religion is correct.

well, you can't prove there is no God either...so it's not a fact


and for billions....religion plays a big part in their lives...and they will do what their religion says...and most, if not all (I ain't an expert in all the millions of em) do say all about respect, treat others as you would want yourself..and just being nice in general. so yeah...sort of.