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Old 19-12-2008, 03:50 PM #1
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1) The only alternative to knocking X Factor off the top spot is err ... the same song? What happened to getting a Christmas song there instead?
2) Jeff Buckley was signed to Sony- just as Alexandra is. Simon Cowell will be profiting from this in some way
3) Its not the original, yet this was the reason why it was to be downloaded which says it all about people who pretend to be a big music fan and taking the moral high ground
4) Its more publicity for Alexandra- people being anti-Alexandra will make other people be sure to buy her single
5) It isn't a moral triumph for music or anything else like that which people are claiming
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realy....
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orly?
EDIT: I bought both so...I'm not wanting Jeff to get to #1 out of spite or whatever I just think it deserves it more. I do love Alexandra's version but I think that she kind of makes the song powerful with the choir and all when thats not how it should be imo. I think Jeff sings it perfectly and is x10 better.
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If they wanted her off the top they should have bought/ downloaded run.

as all the ones who dont want an x factor top spot + leona fans would have done it..
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did everyone telephaticlly tell everyone to buy hes version?
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I agree. I just like it better though haha. I haven't downloaded it or anything though because I already have it
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They should have downloaded Terry Wogan's song instead, at least that is a christmas song an a charity would have been profitting from it all.
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They should have downloaded Terry Wogan's song instead, at least that is a christmas song an a charity would have been profitting from it all.
that would have been for the best.
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GERALDINE!!
should be number one
why isnt noone wanting that for christmas number one
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If they wanted her off the top they should have bought/ downloaded run.

as all the ones who dont want an x factor top spot + leona fans would have done it..
Well they would have said no because its more money going in Cowell's pocket, when thats happening anyway but most are too thick to realise that
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If they wanted her off the top they should have bought/ downloaded run.

as all the ones who dont want an x factor top spot + leona fans would have done it..
Well they would have said no because its more money going in Cowell's pocket, when thats happening anyway but most are too thick to realise that
Ohh i thought this was about the x factor being number 1 not just cowells money. as i really dont care about him making money he will one way or another.
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What is wrong with an XF winner getting to No.1 if they are talented like Alexandra? It is just because people don't like Simon Cowell? How childish.
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Yeah the OP isnt saying people who buy JB's versions are stupid. The stupid ones are the ones who buy it for that reason, out of spite. First of all, it will never happen. I wouldnt be surprised if Alex's single outsells all previous factor winners. And secondly, like the OP said, the same song?
Silly, dumb stupid people.
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FYI downloading Jeff Buckley wont profit Simon Cowell in ANY way.Jeff is signed to Columbia records and Simon is head of Syco.
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FYI downloading Jeff Buckley wont profit Simon Cowell in ANY way.Jeff is signed to Columbia records and Simon is head of Syco.
According to the Daily Mail, Simon is getting the royalties for both the Cohen and Buckley versions

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ah-rights.html
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I think people trying to get Jeff Buckley to No.1 are incredibly selfish. Tbh, he has had his (hhh[]) day in music, Alexandra is just starting out and very beautifully talented and trying to ruin her chances of getting to No.1 are selfish and I think she deserves it more.
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I think people trying to get Jeff Buckley to No.1 are incredibly selfish. Tbh, he has had his (hhh[]) day in music, Alexandra is just starting out and very beautifully talented and trying to ruin her chances of getting to No.1 are selfish and I think she deserves it more.
LMFAO.
Yeah lets buy someones records because they are starting out, nothing to do with the songs or anything.
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FYI downloading Jeff Buckley wont profit Simon Cowell in ANY way.Jeff is signed to Columbia records and Simon is head of Syco.
According to the Daily Mail, Simon is getting the royalties for both the Cohen and Buckley versions

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ah-rights.html
i doubt thats true because both Cohen and Buckley are on different labels to the one Simon owns.
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I think people trying to get Jeff Buckley to No.1 are incredibly selfish. Tbh, he has had his (hhh[]) day in music, Alexandra is just starting out and very beautifully talented and trying to ruin her chances of getting to No.1 are selfish and I think she deserves it more.
LMFAO.
Yeah lets buy someones records because they are starting out, nothing to do with the songs or anything.
I didn't say that. But just because she covered the song dosen't mean that you have to be selfish and try to get someone who DIDN'T sing the original to number one. When she clearly has a better voice and didn't choose the song.
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I think people trying to get Jeff Buckley to No.1 are incredibly selfish. Tbh, he has had his (hhh[]) day in music, Alexandra is just starting out and very beautifully talented and trying to ruin her chances of getting to No.1 are selfish and I think she deserves it more.
LMFAO.
Yeah lets buy someones records because they are starting out, nothing to do with the songs or anything.
I didn't say that. But just because she covered the song dosen't mean that you have to be selfish and try to get someone who DIDN'T sing the original to number one. When she clearly has a better voice and didn't choose the song.
She might have a better voice, but maybe people prefer Jeffs version? She didn't choose the song no, which may also put people off. She's doing it cos she has to, Jeff done it because he wanted to.
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I think people trying to get Jeff Buckley to No.1 are incredibly selfish. Tbh, he has had his (hhh[]) day in music, Alexandra is just starting out and very beautifully talented and trying to ruin her chances of getting to No.1 are selfish and I think she deserves it more.
LMFAO.
Yeah lets buy someones records because they are starting out, nothing to do with the songs or anything.
I didn't say that. But just because she covered the song dosen't mean that you have to be selfish and try to get someone who DIDN'T sing the original to number one. When she clearly has a better voice and didn't choose the song.
She might have a better voice, but maybe people prefer Jeffs version? She didn't choose the song no, which may also put people off. She's doing it cos she has to, Jeff done it because he wanted to.
All I said was that I think it's selfish, and I haven't gone back on my word.
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1) The only alternative to knocking X Factor off the top spot is err ... the same song? What happened to getting a Christmas song there instead?
2) Jeff Buckley was signed to Sony- just as Alexandra is. Simon Cowell will be profiting from this in some way
3) Its not the original, yet this was the reason why it was to be downloaded which says it all about people who pretend to be a big music fan and taking the moral high ground
4) Its more publicity for Alexandra- people being anti-Alexandra will make other people be sure to buy her single
5) It isn't a moral triumph for music or anything else like that which people are claiming

1. There is no alternative to XF getting off the top spot. It's already miles ahead of all the other tracks.

2. Simon Cowell's profits were not the reason the anti-XF campaigners started the campaign.

3. This was only the reason stated by some people. A lot of people are well aware that Leonard Cohen is the original artist, and there is a demand for his version also.

4. Again, it's more anti-XF than anti-Alexandra. She's a product of a TV show which has a lot of critics.

5. Who are these people you speak of?
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1) The only alternative to knocking X Factor off the top spot is err ... the same song? What happened to getting a Christmas song there instead?
2) Jeff Buckley was signed to Sony- just as Alexandra is. Simon Cowell will be profiting from this in some way
3) Its not the original, yet this was the reason why it was to be downloaded which says it all about people who pretend to be a big music fan and taking the moral high ground
4) Its more publicity for Alexandra- people being anti-Alexandra will make other people be sure to buy her single
5) It isn't a moral triumph for music or anything else like that which people are claiming

1. There is no alternative to XF getting off the top spot. It's already miles ahead of all the other tracks.

2. Simon Cowell's profits were not the reason the anti-XF campaigners started the campaign.

3. This was only the reason stated by some people. A lot of people are well aware that Leonard Cohen is the original artist, and there is a demand for his version also.

4. Again, it's more anti-XF than anti-Alexandra. She's a product of a TV show which has a lot of critics.

5. Who are these people you speak of?
There is an alternative. If a song is made and the media gets behind it properly then there will definitely be a rival. Its just that noone has attempted anything on that scale before.

Partly that is the reason why some have started it. Some have said they want to buy the song to spite Simon Cowell, because he is responsible for a good song being ruined and it will damage his ego if Alexandra isn't number one blah blah blah.

A lot do know the original artist, you're right. But some people also claim that its the original, do a facebook search and you'll see that.

It may be anti-XF, but the more people want someone else to be Christmas number one, more people could buy Alexandra's single just to spite those people for spiting XF/Alexandra in the first place.

You'll see a lot of the people in the XF boards on DS. A lot of them think they're real music fans, and to be a real music fan you have to prefer originals over covers etc. Musical snobbery comes into play over acts coming from the talent show background as well.
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I think people trying to get Jeff Buckley to No.1 are incredibly selfish. Tbh, he has had his (hhh[]) day in music, Alexandra is just starting out and very beautifully talented and trying to ruin her chances of getting to No.1 are selfish and I think she deserves it more.
LMFAO.
Yeah lets buy someones records because they are starting out, nothing to do with the songs or anything.
I didn't say that. But just because she covered the song dosen't mean that you have to be selfish and try to get someone who DIDN'T sing the original to number one. When she clearly has a better voice and didn't choose the song.
It's hardly selfish when we (the people who download Jeff's over Alexandra's) will benefit in no way.

Whether or not Alexandra has a better voice is not "clear" at all. It's a matter of opinion, I personally far prefer Jeff's or say Diana's quieter more understated vocals to Alexandra's blatant oversinging and shouting the house down (I speaking generally not just about this song).
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I don't see whats so special about Je's version, i'd much rather Alexandra get #1
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