[Sticks]

We will see who did well in the Euro elections

[Shaun]

heh.

[Tom]

News is on at 10.30pm. Oops.

[arista]

The BNP
have won a seat in Europe
from the Yorkshire area.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ever-seat.html


And Stinking New Labour have lost
the most.


Also in Yorshire
UKIP gained another seat
and New Labour lost a seat.
Justice.


And in Wales
the Conservatives came top, beating New Labour
and the Welsh Nat.

It is Time For Change.

[Z]

I'm amazed that the BNP won a seat, I'd say congratulations but I'm sure people would jump on me for that.

[Lauren]

I'm horrified BNP have won a seat, in retrospect - I can see why they have. Ill-educated people making a statement. Not saying all of them, but I certainly think they helped.

[Lauren]

I spoke too early, 2nd seat won for BNP.

[Z]

The BNP have changed from essentially being a glorified racial hatred group to a political party with extreme views; in a time where Labour and Conservatives are fighting to be the most neutral party, it's only natural that the extreme parties are going to pick up more votes than they would have years ago. I'm surprised they've won seats, but I'm not surprised that people have voted for them.

[Shaun]

I can only see 1 seat for them at the moment, Lauren?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Zee
The BNP have changed from essentially being a glorified racial hatred group to a political party with extreme views; in a time where Labour and Conservatives are fighting to be the most neutral party, it's only natural that the extreme parties are going to pick up more votes than they would have years ago. I'm surprised they've won seats, but I'm not surprised that people have voted for them.

They've made themselves sound neutral, no doubt about it. I don't need to post quotes from their members, they're still as extreme as they've ever been, if not worse.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Shaun
I can only see 1 seat for them at the moment, Lauren?

It's unofficial atm, they've won a seat in North West, with leader Nick Griffin though. Should be coming through soon.

[Shaun]

Ah I see, and indeed, offering to re-patriate non-whites (because they "aren't British") is just disgusting, let alone the fact that only white people can join the party.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Shaun
Ah I see, and indeed, offering to re-patriate non-whites (because they "aren't British") is just disgusting, let alone the fact that only white people can join the party.

Even if we ignore their fascist outright claims, lets look at the... integrity of the MPs.

Dare I quote it? Nick Eriksen BNP - Rape is a myth apparently. Because women enjoy sex, raping them is like force-feeding them chocolate cake.

Mr Eriksen wrote: "I've never understood why so many men have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the feminazi myth machine into believing that rape is such a serious crime ... Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal.

"To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting that force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence. A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched.

In November 2005, in an item entitled "Give her a slap!," Mr Eriksen approvingly quoted Noel Coward as saying: "Some women are like gongs - they need to be struck regularly."
He later claimed that "the vast majority of domestic [assaults] are initiated by the woman".

[Z]

Originally posted by Lauren

They've made themselves sound neutral, no doubt about it. I don't need to post quotes from their members, they're still as extreme as they've ever been, if not worse.

I was referring to Labour and Conservative when I said neutral; the BNP are extreme, but they're picking up votes from disaffected Labour and Conservative voters.

[Shaun]

Jesus :|

and Daniel Hannan and Nigel Forage to be the next Richard & Judy <3

[Tom]

The irony about the BNP is that people actually agree with them without realising. In a recent survey, people were told BNP policies without being told they were BNP policies and the results found 77% agreed with less asylum seekers, 83% supported priority of British people for housing, 91% agreed with criminals doing full sentences ... and most surprising 59% supported a halt to immigration. All results fell (some quite a lot) when associated with the BNP. Quite interesting actually, full analysis- http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/196

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tom
The irony about the BNP is that people actually agree with them without realising. In a recent survey, people were told BNP policies without being told they were BNP policies and the results found 77% agreed with less asylum seekers, 83% supported priority of British people for housing, 91% agreed with criminals doing full sentences ... and most surprising 59% supported a halt to immigration. All results fell (some quite a lot) when associated with the BNP. Quite interesting actually, full analysis- http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/196

Like I said. There are two types of BNP policies. The public ones, and the less-public ones. Once honey-glazed, their policies sound quite ideal.

[Shaun]

Hmm, fortunately the majority of these idiots are the sorts who'd rather pop down to the post office for their giro, blow it all in Lidl and then waddle home to watch Eastenders, rather than go out and vote.

[Z]

Originally posted by Tom
The irony about the BNP is that people actually agree with them without realising. In a recent survey, people were told BNP policies without being told they were BNP policies and the results found 77% agreed with less asylum seekers, 83% supported priority of British people for housing, 91% agreed with criminals doing full sentences ... and most surprising 59% supported a halt to immigration. All results fell (some quite a lot) when associated with the BNP. Quite interesting actually, full analysis- http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/196

This is what I mean when I say I can understand why people are voting BNP; they've actually developed policies as opposed to hating on anything that isn't a white man; there's a massive stigma associated with the BNP and nobody wants to be accused of being racist/homophobic/sexist, but as that survey shows, people do agree with some of their policies.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Shaun
Hmm, fortunately the majority of these idiots are the sorts who'd rather pop down to the post office for their giro, blow it all in Lidl and then waddle home to watch Eastenders, rather than go out and vote.

You don't agree therefore the survey is wrong? Race issues aside, some of the BNP policies do make some good sense and what people argue in every day life (e.g. make criminals serve a full sentence). I think its perfectly understandable why some people vote for them and I think its perfectly reasonable to not be racist and vote for them.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Tom

You don't agree therefore the survey is wrong? Race issues aside, some of the BNP policies do make some good sense and what people argue in every day life (e.g. make criminals serve a full sentence). I think its perfectly understandable why some people vote for them and I think its perfectly reasonable to not be racist and vote for them.

I think that the majority of the people surveyed are probably readers of the Sun whose limited interest in politics ends at "SEND DEM ****IN MUSLIMS BACK HOME".

I cannot and will not take a party, who, fundamentally, believe that non-whites are not British, seriously. End of.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tom

You don't agree therefore the survey is wrong? Race issues aside, some of the BNP policies do make some good sense and what people argue in every day life (e.g. make criminals serve a full sentence). I think its perfectly understandable why some people vote for them and I think its perfectly reasonable to not be racist and vote for them.

I disagree with the last bit. If you agree with the majority of their votes but disagree with their main policy (the fascist policy) you just simply wouldn't vote for them.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Shaun

I think that the majority of the people surveyed are probably readers of the Sun whose limited interest in politics ends at "SEND DEM ****** MUSLIMS BACK HOME".

I cannot and will not take a party, who, fundamentally, believe that non-whites are not British, seriously. End of.

No I don't agree and I say that as someone who isn't fully British. A lot of people who aren't fully British accept that and are proud of heritage from wherever they come from.

Originally posted by Lauren

I disagree with the last bit. If you agree with the majority of their votes but disagree with their main policy (the fascist policy) you just simply wouldn't vote for them.

I don't agree. Noone likes every policy of any party so if you weigh up the pros and cons of each party, for some people the one with the strongest pros would get their vote. Though its not something I'd personally vote for, I wouldn't condemn anyone for it if they voted for positives rather than to kick out the foreigners.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tom

I don't agree. Noone likes every policy of any party so if you weigh up the pros and cons of each party, for some people the one with the strongest pros would get their vote. Though its not something I'd personally vote for, I wouldn't condemn anyone for it if they voted for positives rather than to kick out the foreigners.

We'll have to agree to disagree, cos I certainly disagree with that. You make a good point that no-one likes every policy of any party, but when one of the policies is outright FASCIST, I think it's safe to say it wipes them from my choices.

[Shaun]

ew 132k.