[PaulyJ]

In light of recent events the already popular Freddie has achieved, imo unrivaled heights of public support. His journey has till now, been akin to a toddler learning to walk, he failed to make friends at first, he told jokes that no one found funny, he started conversations that we're philosophical and deep, in a world where fun and laughter is the order of the day.

Did people take this as an act and therefore start to read to much into this and simply do the math wrong ie 2 + 2 = 5???

Freddie must leave people feeling two different things torwards him simultaneously, on one hand he makes annoying ummm, awww, noises, sings out of tune, engages with people awkwardly. And yet on the other hand he has never talked badly of anyone, he is genuine, trustworthy, and really quite a sweet, harmless bloke.

Have people seen this apparent contradiction in Freddie's personality and tried to make sense of it, with the outcome being Freddie is a game player( i am refering to the way Lisa and Kris, and by sheepish agreement Karly attacked him a week or so back ) They say you can't put an unanswered question down, Have they been asking what's Freddie about, He's an Idiot, No he's really quite sweet, No He's an Idiot awww **** it i give up lets just see Freddie the way we want to see him, as a game playing Idiot who's sweetness is a device to fool us into playing his game, his intelligence becomes one of his weapons used in his plan???

Tonights HL show may reveil some highly valuable answers for me

1. Did Karly & Kris call Noirin a Bunny, as there denial of this, would convince me of the pcychologists notion of Displacement theory, where by someone who has a game plan, often choses a harmless HM to out as having a gameplan.

2. Freddie Backed Siavash last night, he said "he has no reason to doubt siavash and has every reason to doubt Karly" He said it in such a convincing way, i just hope his conviction shines true, rather than demonstrates just how a good speaker can convince us to believe the not true.

3. Noirin argued and argued over the point that Siavash had lied about hearing the Bunny comment, she said "I dont care what happens to Siavash now" she called him a weirdo, and was extremely hateful torward him. Siavash did not help himself though i was very confused as of his position ie did he hear Kris & Karly call Noirin a Bunny, or did he just think, they thought she was a Bunny (goes from group to group) If guilt swings completely away from Siavash tonight, will Noirin become more disliked than the iconic Nasty Nick???

4 Will Freddie finally be able to walk on his own two feet after tonight, he showed lots of confidence and changed Hm's perception of him being a simple harmless idiot who is sometimes a sweety, true they wont see what we will see, but will Freddie come out of this Smelling of Roses, in the eyes of the HM's?

Big Brother is on at 10 tonight, and i for one cant wait, it is going to be a blinder

[minx36]

Unless BB edit the ***** out of it!

[Indierock&roll]

they need to show like half an hour at least of the whole argument to get eerything into it!

[cleaner67]

We who watched live last night know what really happened but what they show on HL show is yet to be seen, hope it`s not edited to the point of giving a false impression of what really happened.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by cleaner67
We who watched live last night know what really happened but what they show on HL show is yet to be seen, hope it`s not edited to the point of giving a false impression of what really happened.

I didn't watch the live feed last night but would be really interested to know what kind of a spin they put on the arguement in the H/l show and how accurate to the full version they'll make it!!! You'll have to do a post tomorrow and let me know!!!

[Saku]

Originally posted by Niamhxo

I didn't watch the live feed last night but would be really interested to know what kind of a spin they put on the arguement in the H/l show and how accurate to the full version they'll make it!!! You'll have to do a post tomorrow and let me know!!!

Agreed... I'd love to see the unedited version of it from the forums point of view. Moreover the fact that I missed this and am only gonna get the edited pov.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

Originally posted by cleaner67
We who watched live last night know what really happened but what they show on HL show is yet to be seen, hope it`s not edited to the point of giving a false impression of what really happened.

I watched live feed but i was slightly late to start. What did Siavash say to Noirin??

[Niamh.]

Agreed... I'd love to see the unedited version of it from the forums point of view. Moreover the fact that I missed this and am only gonna get the edited pov. [/quote]

I hate when I miss the l/f and something good happens!! I only watch it Fri & Sat nights cos I can't function unless I get my 8 hours!!!!!

[PaulyJ]

The only thing we did not see on LF last night was The Bunny comment, that's what i'm looking for, if it's not in the show, does that mean it was not said, or BB did not include it. I refuse to believe they would not include it if it was said, so will assume it was not i guess.

[Saku]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
The only thing we did not see on LF last night was The Bunny comment, that's what i'm looking for, if it's not in the show, does that mean it was not said, or BB did not include it. I refuse to believe they would not include it if it was said, so will assume it was not i guess.

Oh no wonder. So it wasn't included? Damn that doesn't help shed light on it... so maybe nobody said it and she's just causing drama.

[trasadkel]

If no comment to Noirin was made by Kris or Karly then Halfwit and Siavash are going to look very stupid. They both accused them of saying this.

Halfwit annoyed me immensely by shouting and disbelieving Karly without knowing the facts.

If no tape is found of this I hope that Siavash and Halfwit will have the grace to apoligise to Karly.

[Benjamin]

Please, please, please look at Karly's face when Noirion is schreeching. She looks so unimpressed, and at one point she looks like she is going to start laughing so hard but is trying fight it back. I really wanted her to laugh and set Noirin off more. lol.


You may want to turn tv sets down tonight though, she gets quite high pitched at some points.

[Marzy]

Originally posted by Saku

Oh no wonder. So it wasn't included? Damn that doesn't help shed light on it... so maybe nobody said it and she's just causing drama.

Yes Karly and Kriss did say it but it was a couple of nights ago at the bus stop. But it was said.

[Chuckyegg]

could you write that again pauly, with edited highlights

[The_Long_Run]

The psychogists are going to have a field-day analysing this one. Siavash was trying to be supportive to NOISEin, cos he likes (liked) her and was giving what he thought was friendly and supportive advice. She knows she is "playing a game" with her 'doing the rounds' strategy. I use the "playing a game" as short hand for that most natural of instincts 'self preservation'. The suggestion that people might be seeing it as a pre-planned strategy unnerved her so she thought she would kill two birds with one stone. First try to undermine the perception, that HAS BEEN explicitly referred to by Karly and Kris at the bus-stop a few days ago, that she is being false in circulating amonst the cliques. Personally I don't think se is being false or strategic, she's just looking for a welcoming home to protect herself from unwanted male attention. (Here again she is a bit confused because she does like to be 'appreciated' (pity it turns into being lusted over in a somewhat unpleasant way, but that is not surprising in the pressure cooker and frustration inducing context)

Secondly, she wants to undermine Siavash's role as the peace maker. He is honestly and sincerely attracted to NOISEin. (Do a ****** bleep count. EVERY third word when she got going was ****** last night).

She thinks that being seen as a 'rabbit' brosing amongst the cliques can only be seen negatively and she was obviously VERY sensitive about that. She should have made a virtue of it, taken it positively rather than over-reacting like she did.

Anyway, silly girl, shot herself RIGHT in the foot, she has pissed off a lot of the HMs and this is a slippery slope she has put herself on. When Kris goes tomorrow, SHE will get the blame. The HMs will interpret it as public confirmation that Siavash was telling the truth (even though he never said what NOISEin says he did, in the terms she is claiming... notice how she always hears what SHE wants to hear, rather than what was said?). This will increase the negative implication of her 'putting herself about' amongst the cliques.

It's gonna be fun whatever. A real turning point, (lets se if Freddie is up next week NOW).

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by Marzy

Yes Karly and Kriss did say it but it was a couple of nights ago at the bus stop. But it was said.

5 quid to the first youtube link to a vid showing that convo

[Saku]

Originally posted by PaulyJ

5 quid to the first youtube link to a vid showing that convo

I'd love to see it.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by PaulyJ

5 quid to the first youtube link to a vid showing that convo

lmao well another poster on here has uploaded the whole conversation of the live feed,i havent got round to seeing it but i think you may want to..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN4P3...BC27D5&index=0

BTW I DID NOT POST THIS OR UPLOAD THIS and will not take no credit for doing so,i just stumbled across this in another thread ... on here cant remeber which one tbh.. infact il edit this post in a sec.. but dont bother with part 1,2.. just start from part 3 and your good to go...

EDIT...ok it was a member "Striptease" on the "siavash lied" thread who posted this... so credit goes to him/her

[Shasown]

I personally would be amazed if BB were able to show a clip where Siavash says Kris and Snarly said you were like a bunny.

Seeing the live feed last night Marcus and Freddie were trying desperately not to upset Noirin, they were trying diplomatically to say:

"Calm down you distraught woman and look at what was said, now you have caused an arguement and given ammunition for team vile to nominate both yourself and Siavash. you have also forced away someone who was trying to help you because you cant see the games snarly and kris are playing"

The thing I want to know is did she deliberately take umbrage to what Siavash said and stir the sh1t for him because he told her that he didnt fancy her and wouldnt be making a play for her?

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by Shasown
I personally would be amazed if BB were able to show a clip where Siavash says Kris and Snarly said you were like a bunny.

Seeing the live feed last night Marcus and Freddie were trying desperately not to upset Noirin, they were trying diplomatically to say:

"Calm down you distraught woman and look at what was said, now you have caused an arguement and given ammunition for team vile to nominate both yourself and Siavash. you have also forced away someone who was trying to help you because you cant see the games snarly and kris are playing"

The thing I want to know is did she deliberately take umbrage to what Siavash said and stir the sh1t for him because he told her that he didnt fancy her and wouldnt be making a play for her?

There was footage of Siavash telling Noirin, Freddie, & Marcus, the bunny stuff, on BBLB earlier,i am sure they will show that tonight

what i want to see is Karly and Kris talking about Noirin calling her a bunny, which apparently happened a few nights ago

ok ill up it to a tenner

[rusticgal]

I watched Lf and did not see Siavash say Kris and Karly...but it could have been bleeped out for tonights show.However he owned up to saying he said their names but then says the public will see he didn't.... so we will have to see tonight.
The most important thing here is in my view Noirin turnd her back and exposed her true friends in there.... now I believe she has none.Good...I always said she was capable of stabbing her friends in the back...and thats exactly what she has done.