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Clockers · 11-07-2009, 09:53 AM

What p!sses me off is Charlie is still one of the favourites to win, if you guys saw odds checker regarding who was gonna be evicted lastnight, apart from 1 bookies Charlie had longer odds than Freddie. What that means is Charlie was less likely to be evicted than Freddie which makes him one of the favourites to win IMO.

That annoys the hell out of the me, cos if you part of Kris's gang you don't deserve to win jack sh!t, let alone be one of the favourites.

karezza · 11-07-2009, 09:54 AM

Charmless & Rodribore will sneak into the final. You only need 30% of the final vote to win.

NettoSuperstar! · 11-07-2009, 09:57 AM

How? He's so false and transparent!

Chuckyegg · 11-07-2009, 09:59 AM

Because the public are generally not fit to vote. Same in politics. It's the paradox of democracy.

Clockers · 11-07-2009, 10:07 AM

Well it was a bit like Brian Dowling, Gay Guys prancing around like idiots can do know wrong when you are a chavy teen bopper wasting their pay as you go fone credit looking for a winner. They can be a bullying ****t and a horrible peice of sh!t but it ok cos they are "Funny".

The_Long_Run · 11-07-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Clockers
What p!sses me off is Charlie is still one of the favourites to win, if you guys saw odds checker regarding who was gonna be evicted lastnight, apart from 1 bookies Charlie had longer odds than Freddie. What that means is Charlie was less likely to be evicted than Freddie which makes him one of the favourites to win IMO.

That annoys the hell out of the me, cos if you part of Kris's gang you don't deserve to win jack sh!t, let alone be one of the favourites.

In a 2 way bet, if JUST Charlie and Freddie were up, the bookies wuld have had different odds. Because it was a 5 way vote the odds are far more complex.

There were two 'sub-groups' up for eviction:

Freddie or Markus (Team nice)
against
Kris, Sophie and Charlie. (Team nasty)

The bookies thought that Kris would get the VAST majority of votes for Team nasty. Even thought team nasty were going to get more votes over all Charlie's share would be very small.

Team nice are not universally recognised for being nice and so some votes were going to go to them. Freddie might get less than half of those votes, but still a fair share, plus some as an individual (sui generis).

So, the complexity led the bookies to think that in a 5 way scenario, Charlie was safer than Freddie. Wait and see what the actual percentages were..... Not till the end of the seris though

Alf · 11-07-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Clockers
Well it was a bit like Brian Dowling, Gay Guys prancing around like idiots can do know wrong when you are a chavy teen bopper wasting their pay as you go fone credit looking for a winner. They can be a bullying ****t and a horrible peice of sh!t but it ok cos they are "Funny".

i understand what you mean
but to be fair, brian had a bit of wit in the house
unlike this attention seeking fairy

NettoSuperstar! · 11-07-2009, 10:20 AM

Do not compare Brian to Charlie. Brian is a legend and funny as! Nothing fake about him either!

DrunkerThanMoses · 11-07-2009, 10:21 AM

Charlie is okay, but he plays up to he camera too much, which is why i dislike him a bit! He dosent deserve to win.... but i think he might of had the lowest votes last night? Does anyone know if he did?

Clockers · 11-07-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by The_Long_Run

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Originally posted by Clockers
What p!sses me off is Charlie is still one of the favourites to win, if you guys saw odds checker regarding who was gonna be evicted lastnight, apart from 1 bookies Charlie had longer odds than Freddie. What that means is Charlie was less likely to be evicted than Freddie which makes him one of the favourites to win IMO.

That annoys the hell out of the me, cos if you part of Kris's gang you don't deserve to win jack sh!t, let alone be one of the favourites.

In a 2 way bet, if JUST Charlie and Freddie were up, the bookies wuld have had different odds. Because it was a 5 way vote the odds are far more complex.

There were two 'sub-groups' up for eviction:

Freddie or Markus (Team nice)
against
Kris, Sophie and Charlie. (Team nasty)

The bookies thought that Kris would get the VAST majority of votes for Team nasty. Even thought team nasty were going to get more votes over all Charlie's share would be very small.

Team nice are not universally recognised for being nice and so some votes were going to go to them. Freddie might get less than half of those votes, but still a fair share, plus some as an individual (sui generis).

So, the complexity led the bookies to think that in a 5 way scenario, Charlie was safer than Freddie. Wait and see what the actual percentages were..... Not till the end of the seris though

Excellent point, when you put it like that, it makes allot of sense.

Clockers · 11-07-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Do not compare Brian to Charlie. Brian is a legend! Nothing fake about him!

I thought Brian was a bully imo, the treatment of Paul was terrible. That was 9 years ago so does not matter any more, just seems to me Gay Guys can get away with murder in the BB house.

Luminis · 11-07-2009, 10:26 AM

Im scared to admit this but...
I still like him

NettoSuperstar! · 11-07-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Clockers

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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Do not compare Brian to Charlie. Brian is a legend! Nothing fake about him!

I thought Brian was a bully imo, the treatment of Paul was terrible. That was 9 years ago so does not matter any more, just seems to me Gay Guys can get away with murder in the BB house.

Paul was a plank and it wasnt bullying! Not like what goes on nowadays! He just took the piss a bit...he deserved it! "I live my life like an international rock star" lol

The_Long_Run · 11-07-2009, 10:28 AM

LOL, Kris didn't get away with murder... perhaps he should have played up his gay side ( a VERY strong sub-text) a bit more by your interpretation

Clockers · 11-07-2009, 10:32 AM

I am coming across homophobic but it is far from it, just an observation I have made. Just for the record I was happy Nadia won BB5.

NettoSuperstar! · 11-07-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Clockers
I am coming across homophobic but it is far from it, just an observation I have made. Just for the record I was happy Nadia won BB5.

lol

Kore · 11-07-2009, 10:54 AM

i like charlie lol

Lee. · 11-07-2009, 11:24 AM

I can't bear Charlie! I thought at first he was going to be the funny, cheeky chappy of the houe but he's just an immature little prick! I find him unbelievably false and all his facial expressions drive me mad as do his DR bits!!

Clockers · 11-07-2009, 11:33 AM

He is also at a level of stupid which only teeny boppers and chavs can appericate.

sheephater · 11-07-2009, 11:39 AM

Like Charlie??.....Can,t you remember him making a dick of himself with Angel.water on her head etc etc......the guys a idiot!!!!!!

Becker · 11-07-2009, 11:41 AM

He is burying any chance he has by siding with Lisa and Co, I mean we all know how popular they are right

I really wouldn't sweat it too much as far as Charlie is concerned but you got to love the way things are panning out. I'm starting to really enjoy this BB.

AhmedFan2004 · 11-07-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by Chuckyegg
Because the public are generally not fit to vote. Same in politics. It's the paradox of democracy.

Yep, this is true. Though I actually like Charlie because he's been entertaining, funny and friendly for the time I've been watching him.

I don't think being friends with a couple of baddies makes him bad. Everyone is their own person. He was the one helping Freddie to integrate, perk up, etc. Freddie rewarded him by flirting with him and rubbing him, lol.

But I agree, the public are not equipped to vote wisely and sensibly. And the government, producers of shows, etc know this key piece of info.

So they always make money, always get their way, play the public, etc.

It's not like you're forced to take an IQ test or pass an exam, or anything. Just be brainwashed by some source, not think for yourself, then wham - Vote for nonsense reasons.

muchadoaboutnothing · 11-07-2009, 02:03 PM

I can't stand Charlie. So full of himself and the crocodile tears in the DR was a very fake act of self pity. How he is so popular with the public (or bookies) beats me. I really don't understand it.

AhmedFan2004 · 11-07-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by Becker
He is burying any chance he has by siding with Lisa and Co, I mean we all know how popular they are right

True, because the individual isn't getting judged. He's one of the most likeable housemates.

Funny, outgoing, stays up late, cool type, friendly and nice with everyone, etc.

He's the only housemate who is loved from all the groups in the house. Not 1 housemate dislikes Charlie.

Even Rodrigo loves Charlie, and he play-fights with him.

AhmedFan2004 · 11-07-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
I can't stand Charlie. So full of himself and the crocodile tears in the DR was a very fake act of self pity. How he is so popular with the public (or bookies) beats me. I really don't understand it.

Why were they fake and how would you know? People said similar about Freddie's tears.

You don't know what they are feeling and how it all amounts together in that house.

He may have just cracked, after being pestered and forced to fight/argue for the millionth time in the space of a day, by whiny Rodrigo.

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