[dennissabre]

Lisa, Charlie and Karly were sitting the garden after Kris's eviction discussing the evening’s 'sad' events. They were all clearly gutted that Kris had been the one to go out of the five housemates nominated for eviction.

"I can’t believe he’s gone," said Charlie, speculating that producers have been misrepresenting housemates' behaviour.

"They can’t be showing the things Marcus has been saying about women and disabled people or he’d be out the door," Lisa said.

"Yeah, like how he tries to impress girls by saying he’s got Down’s Syndrome," replied Charlie, before the live feed cut to a different room in the house.

I already thought he was sick but this just shows how sick he really is if of cause there is any truth in it. Looks like BB knew it as well to suddenly switch the livefeed to another part of the house. Where's 24 hr livefeed when you need it?

[vesavius]

Den, I see what you are saying, but am I gonna believe what those cretins present as 'truth' as they spitefully twist and mispresent what is really said just to attack others not in their group?

Nah, we have seen them lie and corrupt the truth about other other HMs waaay too many times for that.

Unless I actually see footage of Marcus saying this I will reserve judgement.

[Alf]

if he had of said this i think bb would have shown it.
i cant believe it unless i see it.

[The_Long_Run]

Live feed? WHAT live feed?!!!! There is a time delay between live action and broadcast. You don't think they have an editorial team working full-time deciding which group to be showing, when to cut the audio, when to blank out lips in case lip-readers are watching?

This line was DELIBERATELY broadcast and cut away from.... BB maniplulation of percepion is going on ALL the time. Remember, it is an entetainment game show NOT a documentary!

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by vesavius
Den, I see what you are saying, but am I gonna believe what those cretins present as 'truth' as they spitefully twist and mispresent what is really said just to attack others not in their group?

Nah, we have seen them lie and corrupt the truth about other other HMs waaay too many times for that.

Unless I actually see footage of Marcus saying this I will reserve judgement.

I understand exactly what you are saying but it was odd that they suddenly switched the livefeed. Trying to avoid another scandal maybe?

[vesavius]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Live feed? WHAT live feed?!!!! There is a time delay between live action and broadcast. You don't think they have an editorial team working full-time deciding which group to be showing, when to cut the audio, when to blank out lips in case lip-readers are watching?

This line was DELIBERATELY broadcast and cut away from.... BB maniplulation of percepion is going on ALL the time. Remember, it is an entetainment game show NOT a documentary!

Just a word to say that most of the people that post here arnt BB newbs.. probably best to assume we know as much about editing etc as you do for the time being.

But, just for me to get this straight, you are saying that you didnt see Marcus say it either? And that you are willing to take the word of proven liars, with an obvious agenda against him, that he did?

[BB22]

It seems like a fairly preposterous accusation to me. How on earth would pretending to have such a condition attract women? How would one go about doing such a thing? Why would someone boast about something so unpleasant in front of a group of people and knowing that one's comments are being monitored and recorded? None of it makes any sense at all.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by dennissabre

I understand exactly what you are saying but it was odd that they suddenly switched the livefeed. Trying to avoid another scandal maybe?

maybe, but it's too serious an accusation for me to go with unless I see it... the Viles are proven to twist and lie as it suits them, especially to each other behind the Nerd's backs.

If he did say it though, I am right with you.

[The_Long_Run]

Like Freddie, Siavash and Marks, I assume nothing. I watch observantly and respond on the basis of evidence as I see it.

Reported speech is always something of which one should be even more cautious. Charlie says that Markus said something.... (DID Markus say it? If so, in what context?) Poor Charlie is enaged in refelective response behaviour. He has seen Karly turning on Dogface when she wasn't there so he is showing "I AM PART OF THE TEAM" more to Lisa but also to Karly.

Hopefully, when Rodrigo and he work out their feelings for each other he will see sense and ESCAPE from her evil claws.

[dennissabre]

There's every chance of cause that Charlie said it knowing full well that it would cause outrage to to the viewing public to stitch Marcus up!

Also how do you 'pretend' to have Down's Syndrome?


This is where along with the whole 'rabbit' fiasco, 24hr livefeed is so important in what we actually get to see and hear.

[Marc]

Isn't it a little obvious that he doesn't have downs syndrome?? and sorry but what girl falls in love with a DS straight away like that.. its not as if your saying your a millionaire? (I am not being offensive to DS sufferers)
I think they may have staged that.

[naranja]

that's the one of the craziest things I've ever heard!!! Marcus is totally a creep but he kind of prides himself on being some kind of genius, would he really stoop that low? The thing is, I can kind of imagine him saying it but who knows...

However would LKC be that weird to even piece those words together? Its a pretty obscure thing to just make up out of nowhere.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by dennissabre
There's every chance of cause that Charlie said it knowing full well that it would cause outrage to to the viewing public to stitch Marcus up!

Also how do you 'pretend' to have Down's Syndrome?


This is where along with the whole 'rabbit' fiasco, 24hr livefeed is so important in what we actually get to see and hear.

Yeah, too right.

This would have been recorded on LUTs in years passed

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by vesavius

Yeah, too right.

This would have been recorded on LUTs in years passed

Come on now vesavius pull yourself together. Your stronger than this!


It does piss me off on here when i make threads about what gets said on livefeed and am then expected to provide proof that Marcus said this as if i was there???

I haven't said anywhere in my op that Marcus actually said this i'm merely saying what happened in the garden after his eviction.

Hope you are well though

[bettiepage]

Marcus is dirty scum, whether he did say it or not.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by vesavius
maybe, but it's too serious an accusation for me to go with unless I see it... the Viles are proven to twist and lie as it suits them, especially to each other behind the Nerd's backs.

ROFL @ 'The Viles'.

The only vile two, if you wish to use words like that, are Lisa and Karly.

Charlie and Dogface are very respectful and friendly to everybody and show them respect, they are very nice people.

It was Charlie who said Marcus said those words, and I believe Charlie, because he's the nicest and coolest HM this year.

If Lisa/Karly said it, sure, be skeptical.

DO NOT call someone vile because of their friends. Everyone is their own person.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Rice_square
Marcus is dirty scum, weather he did say it or not.

No faulting your opinion on this one,Rice.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

ROFL @ 'The Viles'.

The only vile two, if you wish to use words like that, are Lisa and Karly.

Charlie and Dogface are very respectful and friendly to everybody and show them respect, they are very nice people.

It was Charlie who said Marcus said those words, and I believe Charlie, because he's the nicest and coolest HM this year.

If Lisa/Karly said it, sure, be skeptical.

DO NOT call someone vile because of their friends. Everyone is their own person.

Charlie is just as vile, hes just better at hiding it. His treatment of Angel and freddie has been juvenile and disgusting. He only changed when he realised Freddie was popular and how bad he might look

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Charlie is just as vile, hes just better at hiding it. His treatment of Angel and freddie has been juvenile and disgusting. He only changed when he realised Freddie was popular and how bad he might look

LOL what bad treatment of Angel and Freddie? Freddie loves him. Angel did too.

[HellShark]

Marcus has GAME. People with down syndrome get all the babes (when they're not drowning in their own soup).

[BBObsesserxX]

They might have made it up to make him look bad? Especially since Lisa hates him...

[tedmaul]

Marcus does look a little bit like someone with Downs syndrome

[Oooo_get_her]

Originally posted by BB22
It seems like a fairly preposterous accusation to me. How on earth would pretending to have such a condition attract women? How would one go about doing such a thing? Why would someone boast about something so unpleasant in front of a group of people and knowing that one's comments are being monitored and recorded? None of it makes any sense at all.

It is preposterous.

A mental disability such as DS is not a turn on... people with DS tend to have a mental age lower, sometimes much lower, than their physical years. The kind of man or woman who would be attracted to a person with DS is, for me anyway, on a par with a paedophile, at very least someone who would prey on a vulnerable person.

I have a theory based on the fact that the actual footage of Marcus saying this is missing - Charlie is not the brightest penny in the piggie bank, right? Is it not possible that Marcus said something else, I'm guessing along the lines of Asperger syndrome and Charlie didn't know what it was, or forgot when recounting the story, and said Down Syndrome.

It's still a bit despicable but I think it is far more likely that a person might want to represent themselves with a condition like Asperger than something like DS.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by BBObsesserxX
They might have made it up to make him look bad? Especially since Lisa hates him...

I thought Kris was more likely to say something like that.

[dbfs]

IF MARCUS HAD SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT BB WOULD HAVE PULLED HIM ABOUT IT - I DONT THINK HE SAID IT ESPECIALLY AFTER HIS PC TALK IN THE DIARY ROOM BB WOULD HAVE JUMPED STRAIGH ON HIM - JUST ANOTHER WAY OF THAT GROUP TRYING TO MANIPULATE THE VIEWERS OPINION OF HIM, WONDERED WHAT REASON THEY WOULD COME UP WITH AS TO WHY KRIS WENT OVER THE OTHERS - SHOULD OF KNOWN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE OLD CHESTNUT OF EDITING HIM IN A BAD WAY THERE ALL TOO STUPID AND THINK THERE SO COOL TO REALISE WE JUST DONT LIKE THEIR STYLE OF PERSON.