[Shh]

Everyone is on Noirin’s case because she tried to find out if Siavash was messing with her head. From watching the show you would see that Siavash really told Noirin those things. He was lying because when the people were confronted, in front of him, they said they did not say such a thing and he then changed his story. People seem to forget that the mates in the house tend to get paranoid. Noirin’s point was that the house mates are paranoid already and she did not want to be tricked into being even more paranoid.

What surprises me is that everyone is saying Noirin was wrong but nobody seem to remember that Siavash told Noirin that she was one of his best friends in the house, in one conversation (and then after he lied to her about people calling her Bunny Rabbit behind her back) he told her in another conversation that he would not keep in touch with her after they were out of the house.
Noirin then said to him “that means you are not my friend.” It was after this conversation that Noirin went to find out if he was lying to her about the Bunny Rabbit story.

After listening to her conversation with Marcus about her relationship with Siavash, I could understand why she did not trust that Siavash was telling her the truth and why she tried to find out if he was trying to make her more paranoid. She was trying to find out who really were her friends.

When Noirin confronted the group she was actually trying not to mention Siavash’s name. However, when Siavash was asked, by the group, if he told Noirin the Bunny Rabbit story he did not answer but instead turned to her and asked her if he told her that story. Why would he ask her that question? Was she to lie? He saw her trying to avoid giving him up and he put her on the spot to give him up and then said she betrayed him. The whole thing blew up because he stayed in the room, got her to give him up and then denied that he called any names. What was she suppose to do then? Was she to keep quiet while he told the group he did not call their name which would mean she was lying?

The sad part of this story is that Halfwit said he was in the toilet when the names were called and he was right there in the midst of the conversation, he was also lying. Halfwit was lying and had the heart to yell at Noirin for calling him a liar.
Marcus said he did not remember what names were called, however when the talk went down, right in the middle of it he said, “those two would never think that” and he went on to say that some one else instigated it.

After all this has happened the other group is now looking down on Noirin because they feel like maybe she was the one trying to start argument (which is what Siavash put in their head when Noirin was not around). I would like to know how they would react after finding out that Siavash was the one who was lying.
Another thing is that Siavash was saying he did not want to repeat what was said because it goes against his beliefs and if anyone told him anything he would not go and tell anyone else. If that is true why did he go to Noirin and say Kris and Karly said blah blah blah about you? He can not be trusted and I hope Noirin tries to be extra careful with him.
I don’t think she can trust Marcus either. Everyone thinks she is using Marcus but I think it is the total opposite. How could he tell Noirin to apologise to Siavash? How would that make her look in the other mates eyes? It would look like she was lying and was just causing a disturbance. And he is the one who is always asking for hugs and massages and then say that she is teasing him because she does the very same things he asks her to do.
Now that Marcus and Siavash convinced Noirin that it was her fault that people fancy her she tries to avoid doing those this with Marcus. But do you not see him still asking her for those things? When she refuses to carry out his requests he then turn and speaks to her rudely? Marcus even once told her that she was “so easy” to read. They just did her in and she does not even know it.

Now the other group is keeping their distance from her she doesn’t have much choice but to cling to Marcus’s side. I can assure you that Marcus would take advantage of her in that position. He is now pressuring her more for hugs and she keeps refusing, he again tried to get her under the sheet with him and she refused, he later tried to play with her by punching her but she again refused. Before you can wink, he was lifting her up in the air with his hand between her legs slammed against her fanny, up to her behind grabbing onto her bum. She tried to move his had but his response was that he was not showing her bum.

Now they are all filling her head with all kind of nonsense that they are not even certain of and she is playing into their hands. Noirin let Marcus convince her to apologize to Siavash and Siavash gladly filled Lisa and the crew in on it so they can really believe that Noirin was lying. That same Siavash went and sat with Noirin, Marcus, and Halfwit the same day and said to Noirin that, they (Kris and Karly) did say that thing about her (Noirin) being a Bunny Rabbit and Noirin thought Kris was a better friend to her but now she can see he is not. Siavash saying that just confirm that he has two faces.

I wish Noirin would open her eyes.

[Beastie]

give noirin a break.. give noirin a kit kat

[Chels]

brilliant first post : sleep:

[witchy666]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
give noirin a break.. give noirin a kit kat

Thanx I just spat water at my screan

[Alf]

i hope they all arnt gonna be this long
nine paragraphs
welcome

[Claymores]

Siavash was on a recruitment drive for Team Liar - it went disasterously wrong but unfortunately Nora couldn't keep her cool so ended up looking the bad one against Captian Liar.

She told the truth, Captain Liar outed himself as the liar not her (she never said at any point that it was Sia sh|tstirring), she lost the plot at his rollox and has come out the worst unfortunately.

[RAS]

[Chels]

Originally posted by Claymores
Siavash was on a recruitment drive for Team Liar - it went disasterously wrong but unfortunately Nora couldn't keep her cool so ended up looking the bad one against Captian Liar.

She told the truth, Captain Liar outed himself as the liar not her (she never said at any point that it was Sia sh|tstirring), she lost the plot at his rollox and has come out the worst unfortunately.

you're the one person who actually read it LOL
you deserve a medal

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by Claymores
Siavash was on a recruitment drive for Team Liar - it went disasterously wrong but unfortunately Nora couldn't keep her cool so ended up looking the bad one against Captian Liar.

She told the truth, Captain Liar outed himself as the liar not her (she never said at any point that it was Sia sh|tstirring), she lost the plot at his rollox and has come out the worst unfortunately.

BS

[zOeyxox]

ok....

i dont like norion =P

just a user!

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by RAS

^ THIS

[serensilver]

i didn't read it it's far too long lol! but i agree with the title give Noirin a break!

[Lewis.]

UMG I read it.

I agree with most of it =]

[farhad]

But wasn't siavash right about kris and karly not being her real friends which she thinks they are? Kris has admitted not being a close friend to her in his eviction interview, and he does think she hops from group to group. Its just a shame she betrayed a friend, when something was said in confidence.

[Callum.]

Originally posted by Chels.x

you're the one person who actually read it LOL
you deserve a medal

It's a discussion forum and you're taking the mick for someone trying to discuss. Nice work.

I think that was an excellent post, OP, and thankyou for taking the time out to get your points across intelligently and more importantly, truthfully. I guess that's why people like Chels don't want to read it. Because it goes against their mixed up view of events because it contains the truth and it's a truth that doesn't reflect well on Freddie, Marcus or Siavash very well at all...

But Nora's time will soon be up because her and Rodrigo are the only two housemates who don't need to integrate themselves into part of a group. They can be individual and that's intimidating to others.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by Shh
Everyone is on Noirin’s case because she tried to find out if Siavash was messing with her head. From watching the show you would see that Siavash really told Noirin those things. He was lying because when the people were confronted, in front of him, they said they did not say such a thing and he then changed his story. People seem to forget that the mates in the house tend to get paranoid. Noirin’s point was that the house mates are paranoid already and she did not want to be tricked into being even more paranoid.

What surprises me is that everyone is saying Noirin was wrong but nobody seem to remember that Siavash told Noirin that she was one of his best friends in the house, in one conversation (and then after he lied to her about people calling her Bunny Rabbit behind her back) he told her in another conversation that he would not keep in touch with her after they were out of the house.
Noirin then said to him “that means you are not my friend.” It was after this conversation that Noirin went to find out if he was lying to her about the Bunny Rabbit story.

After listening to her conversation with Marcus about her relationship with Siavash, I could understand why she did not trust that Siavash was telling her the truth and why she tried to find out if he was trying to make her more paranoid. She was trying to find out who really were her friends.

When Noirin confronted the group she was actually trying not to mention Siavash’s name. However, when Siavash was asked, by the group, if he told Noirin the Bunny Rabbit story he did not answer but instead turned to her and asked her if he told her that story. Why would he ask her that question? Was she to lie? He saw her trying to avoid giving him up and he put her on the spot to give him up and then said she betrayed him. The whole thing blew up because he stayed in the room, got her to give him up and then denied that he called any names. What was she suppose to do then? Was she to keep quiet while he told the group he did not call their name which would mean she was lying?

The sad part of this story is that Halfwit said he was in the toilet when the names were called and he was right there in the midst of the conversation, he was also lying. Halfwit was lying and had the heart to yell at Noirin for calling him a liar.
Marcus said he did not remember what names were called, however when the talk went down, right in the middle of it he said, “those two would never think that” and he went on to say that some one else instigated it.

After all this has happened the other group is now looking down on Noirin because they feel like maybe she was the one trying to start argument (which is what Siavash put in their head when Noirin was not around). I would like to know how they would react after finding out that Siavash was the one who was lying.
Another thing is that Siavash was saying he did not want to repeat what was said because it goes against his beliefs and if anyone told him anything he would not go and tell anyone else. If that is true why did he go to Noirin and say Kris and Karly said blah blah blah about you? He can not be trusted and I hope Noirin tries to be extra careful with him.
I don’t think she can trust Marcus either. Everyone thinks she is using Marcus but I think it is the total opposite. How could he tell Noirin to apologise to Siavash? How would that make her look in the other mates eyes? It would look like she was lying and was just causing a disturbance. And he is the one who is always asking for hugs and massages and then say that she is teasing him because she does the very same things he asks her to do.
Now that Marcus and Siavash convinced Noirin that it was her fault that people fancy her she tries to avoid doing those this with Marcus. But do you not see him still asking her for those things? When she refuses to carry out his requests he then turn and speaks to her rudely? Marcus even once told her that she was “so easy” to read. They just did her in and she does not even know it.

Now the other group is keeping their distance from her she doesn’t have much choice but to cling to Marcus’s side. I can assure you that Marcus would take advantage of her in that position. He is now pressuring her more for hugs and she keeps refusing, he again tried to get her under the sheet with him and she refused, he later tried to play with her by punching her but she again refused. Before you can wink, he was lifting her up in the air with his hand between her legs slammed against her fanny, up to her behind grabbing onto her bum. She tried to move his had but his response was that he was not showing her bum.

Now they are all filling her head with all kind of nonsense that they are not even certain of and she is playing into their hands. Noirin let Marcus convince her to apologize to Siavash and Siavash gladly filled Lisa and the crew in on it so they can really believe that Noirin was lying. That same Siavash went and sat with Noirin, Marcus, and Halfwit the same day and said to Noirin that, they (Kris and Karly) did say that thing about her (Noirin) being a Bunny Rabbit and Noirin thought Kris was a better friend to her but now she can see he is not. Siavash saying that just confirm that he has two faces.

I wish Noirin would open her eyes.

lol welcome to the boards and epic first post.

Your probably gonna learn though that people only read the first 2 lines of anything you write around here and we all have the attention spans of gnats... best to keep it short and sweet.

[BBUK4LYFE]

Originally posted by RAS

Only one of Noirin's family members would take the timeout to write that essay to try to convince people to like her.

[Stardoll]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
give noirin a break.. give noirin a kit kat

ROFLMAO

Also, to the OP, TLR. Maybe I'll read it later. I think both handled it badly. We can't be sure they didn't say it - it could have been said a few weeks ago and cut for whatever reason, or Siavash could possibly have misheard what they were saying (Chinese whispers can be deadly). Noirin, however, had NO excuse.

[Chels]

Originally posted by Callum.

It's a discussion forum and you're taking the mick for someone trying to discuss. Nice work.

I think that was an excellent post, OP, and thankyou for taking the time out to get your points across intelligently and more importantly, truthfully. I guess that's why people like Chels don't want to read it. Because it goes against their mixed up view of events because it contains the truth and it's a truth that doesn't reflect well on Freddie, Marcus or Siavash very well at all...

But Nora's time will soon be up because her and Rodrigo are the only two housemates who don't need to integrate themselves into part of a group. They can be individual and that's intimidating to others.

erm, wdf?
if you didn't notice many other people said similar things that i did? read before you post m'lovely.
and it's not because i didn't want to read it, it was because it was way too long; not many people on here don't wan't to read essays tvm.

[geisha]

Noirin should remember what Siavashi tried to warn her originally, never mind who said what.

One thing about Noirin,,,,
She nominated Freddie every single week in the past (5 times) then she held his hand at Friday announcement.
I do not get it.
(Marcus noninated Freddie last week as well, it was shocking.)

[spot_on]

Why should we give Norin a break? Did she give Halfwit a break when she nominated him right after he granted her freedom? Did she give Angle a break the night of her eviction when she made her do the dishes? Did she give Siavash a break when she promised him with all her heart that she wouldn't tell anybody what he told her?

Norin is the last person that deserves a break!

[tierac]

I'm pretty sure I'll agree with you but gosh it's too long!

[moveupandon]

I like Noirin so yes, agree, give her a break.

Marcus kind of get's it.

She is being quite clear to him...

And besides, she is a complex character!

I HATE SUPERFICIAL ONE DIMENSIONAL STUPID AND DULL HOUSEMATES

(Karly, Sophie, Charlie even Lisa anyone)

[sisalto]

Top Marks for effort Shh!!

I definitely agree "Give Noirin a break" - being hounded on by guys like Sree and Marcus!!

She's said herself that the majority of her friends in the outside world are male but arn't lapdogs like those guys...

Halfwit is just as bad!

[Rachelll]

Yeah, give, Noirin a break!